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by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Mario Premke <premke(a)ess-wowi.de> wrote: > Wouldn't that mean to port a 32bit OS (4BSD) back to 16bit (2.xBSD)? Yes. I've never been a fan of 2.xBSD personally. MS

21 years, 6 months

Re: [pups] History of 2 BSD

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Mario Premke <premke(a)ess-wowi.de> wrote: > but I wonder when the step from > 16bit to 32bit was made in BSD. It was not made in BSD. It was made at Ma Bell: the step from V7 to 32V (VAX port of V7). The first Berkeley kernel, 3BSD, was based on 32V and ran on the VAX. (1BSD and 2BSD were distributions of userland utilities and had no kernel. Users added those utilities to their existing V6 or V7 systems.) > Was 2BSD only running on the PDP-11, or > was it ported to other architectures as well? 2BSD was a collection of Berkeley's userland utilities like ex and csh and as such not tied to any particular architecture. While most people used those utilities on V6 and V7 systems (PDP-11), there is no reason why you couldn't compile them under 32V (VAX), or on the Interdata port, or whatever. Don't confuse 2BSD with 2.xBSD, though. The latter came much much later (after 4BSD) and was a backport of some 4BSD features to PDP-11. That one does have a kernel, it's the V7 kernel with some 4BSD bits backported to it. It's what evolutionary biologists call reverse evolution. > What architecture were the > 32bit versions developed on in the beginning? VAX. MS

21 years, 6 months

[pups] History of 32-bit UNIX (was History of 2 BSD)

by norman＠nose.cs.utoronto.ca

Mario Premke: but I wonder when the step from 16bit to 32bit was made in BSD. Michael Sokolov: It was not made in BSD. It was made at Ma Bell: the step from V7 to 32V (VAX port of V7). You're a little late: researchers at Bell Labs ported UNIX to the 32-bit Interdata 8/32 in 1977. I don't think the resulting system was widely used, but the lessons learned greatly influenced V7. In particular typedef and unsigned were added to C, the compiler became more honest about type checking, and system-interface data structures like struct stat were installed in standard include files rather than being copied into every program. Others ported the system in those carefree days as well, in particular Richard Miller at the University of Wollongong, but I don't know much about the other efforts. But the VAX was by no means the first 32-bit port. Norman Wilson Toronto ON

21 years, 6 months

[pups] History of 2 BSD

by Mario Premke

Hello list, hopefully this is not OFF-Topic too far ... but I wonder when the step from 16bit to 32bit was made in BSD. As far as I can see 2BSD is 16bit whereas the succesor(s) is 32bit already. Was 2BSD only running on the PDP-11, or was it ported to other architectures as well? What architecture were the 32bit versions developed on in the beginning? Thanks in advance Mario Premke

21 years, 6 months

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by Kenneth Stailey

You can edit the Wikipedia, it's really easy to pick up on and there are plenty of people involved who can (and will) offer advice if you find yourself struggling. Lots of pages detailing UNIX Hertiage exist now and you can add more if you like. I spent an hour or so today enhancing this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

21 years, 6 months

Re: Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Kenneth Stailey <kstailey(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Speaking of X on Heritage Unix I have a Sun 3/60M with the 1280x1024 monochrome > display. The only display server I have ever gotten to work on it is on NetBSD > 1.3 running the pre-XFree86 X11R6. > > I'm wondering if there are any older UNIXes I could use. I would more than welcome a volunteer to port 4.3BSD-Quasijarus to m68k. (Using pcc of course.) Wanna tackle that one? MS

21 years, 6 months

RE: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!

by Philip, Naveen J (Naveen)

All, Can anyone suggest some good unix mailing list. Regards, Naveen -----Original Message----- From: Warren Toomey [mailto:wkt@tuhs.org] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 6:19 PM To: Philip, Naveen J (Naveen) Cc: 'tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org' Subject: Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!! On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 06:00:57PM +0530, Philip, Naveen J (Naveen) wrote: > Hi > All > I am trying to lauch a xterm window on a remote machine and then once the > xterm window is launched from the remote machine I am trying to start a gui > on the xterm window. Naveen, this is a mailing list about Heritage Unix. I don't think your question counts as such, unless you're running X11R3 on a Sun2 or something similar. Cheers, Warren

21 years, 6 months

Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!

by Philip, Naveen J (Naveen)

> Hi > All > I am trying to lauch a xterm window on a remote machine and then once the > xterm window is launched from the remote machine I am trying to start a > gui on the xterm window. > The following is the command I am using to start the xterm .It is failing > and giving the error. > > remsh hostname " . /home/john/.profile >/dev/null 2> /dev/null;xterm" > stty: invalid command > xterm Xt error: Can't open display > > also can you let me know once the xterm is open how do we lauch the gui > on the xterm window using the same remoteshell.The gui name is nam_gui. > > > Regards, > Naveen

21 years, 6 months

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by Kenneth Stailey

http://www.didiermorandi.com/vms/vaxvms2itanium_200311en.pdf mildly amusing __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

21 years, 6 months

Re: pdp11/34 can't boot. help us !

by John Holden

The machine sounds a scary mix of Unibus and Qbus peripherals (a real Heath Robinson!). Given you cannot deposit/examine memory and get correct results, the bootstrap will halt because it runs some diagnostics (including memory) before it attempts to boot a device. The first step it is to strip down the system to the first system unit. You can still leave all the cards in, just remove the unibus jumper from slot 9 and move the terminator M9302 into slot 9 (a-b). For good measure, I'd also remove the M8217 from slot 9 (c-f) and put in a bus grant continuity card if you have one. Since it's (now) the last slot, it shouldn't matter if the grant card is missing. Then try your memory deposit/examine test. I'm assuming here that you have tested all the power supply voltages as it appear that you have a fairly loaded system. Have a look at the following site for more hints:- http://www.psych.usyd.edu.au/pdp-11/hints.html

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