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by Kenneth Stailey

Hi, Seems that SIMH/PDP11, p11 and ts10 do not simulate older PDP-11's They appear to cover only /*3 (/23, /53, /73, etc) models. Am I wrong about this? Are there any open source emulators for the /40, /45, or /70? I know about Charon and Esatz. Thanks, Ken __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

21 years, 7 months

question about SIMH tapes

by Kenneth Stailey

Hi, Harti's p11 comes with mktape which when given a control file will turn a set of files into a tape image. Is there anything like this for SIMH PDP-11? Thanks, Ken __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

21 years, 7 months

Installing SysIII on simh?

by Andru Luvisi

I am having difficulty installing SysIII on simh. I have attached my simh pdp11 ini file (sys3.simh.bootstrap) and the Perl script used to create the install tape (mksys3tap.pl). Everything seems to go fine while installing the miniroot, but when I try to boot from the "installed" system I don't get very far. Below is a transcript. Any ideas? Andru $ pdp11 sys3.simh.bootstrap PDP-11 simulator V2.10-3 RL: creating new file Create bad block table on last track? [N] UNIX tape boot loader UNIX -- Initial Load: Tape-to-Disk The type of disk drive on which the Root file system will reside, as well as the type of tape drive that will be used for Tape 1 must be specified below. Answer the questions with a 'y' or 'n' followed by a carriage return or line feed. There is no type-ahead -- wait for the question to complete. The character '@' will kill the entire line, while the character '#' will erase the last character typed. RP03 at address 176710?: n RP04/5/6 at address 176700?: n RL01 at address 174400?: y Drive number (0-3)?: 0 Disk drive 0 selected. Mount a formatted pack on drive 0. Ready?: y TU10/TM11 at address 172520?: y Drive number (0-7)?: 0 Tape drive 0 selected. The tape on drive 0 will be read from the current position at 800bpi, 5120 characters (10 blocks) per record, and written onto the pack on drive 0 starting at block 0. Ready?: y Size of filesystem to be copied is 6000 blocks. What is the pack volume label? (e.g. p0001): The pack will be labelled p0001. The boot block for your type of disk drive will now be installed. The file system copy is now complete. To boot the basic unix for your disk and tape drives as indicated above, mount this pack on drive 0 and read in the boot block (block 0) using whatever means you have available; see romboot(8), 70boot(8). Then boot the program unixrltm using diskboot(8). Normally: #0=unixrltm The system will initially come up single-user; see init(8). If you have an upper case only console terminal, you must execute: stty lcase; see stty(1). After UNIX is up, link the file unixrltm to unix using ln(1). # ln /unixrltm /unix Set the date(1). Good Luck! The tape will now be rewound. HALT instruction, PC: 002460 (BR 2456) sim> boot rl0 #0=unixrltm ka6 = 1512 aps = 141774 pc = 1476 ps = 30010 trap type 0 ka6 = 1512 aps = 141666 pc = 113444 ps = 30300 trap type 0 panic: trap

21 years, 7 months

Re: [TUHS] Installing SysIII on simh?

by zmkm zmkm

Andu wouldn't be easier to load it through dsk (I mean download the complete tar and make a dsk out of it) . zmkm >From: Andru Luvisi <luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu> >Reply-To: Andru Luvisi <luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu> >To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org >Subject: [TUHS] Installing SysIII on simh? >Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT) > >I am having difficulty installing SysIII on simh. I have attached my simh >pdp11 ini file (sys3.simh.bootstrap) and the Perl script used to create >the install tape (mksys3tap.pl). Everything seems to go fine while >installing the miniroot, but when I try to boot from the "installed" >system I don't get very far. Below is a transcript. Any ideas? > >Andru > > >$ pdp11 sys3.simh.bootstrap > >PDP-11 simulator V2.10-3 >RL: creating new file >Create bad block table on last track? [N] >UNIX tape boot loader >UNIX -- Initial Load: Tape-to-Disk > >The type of disk drive on which the Root file system will reside, >as well as the type of tape drive that will be used for Tape 1 >must be specified below. > >Answer the questions with a 'y' or 'n' followed by >a carriage return or line feed. >There is no type-ahead -- wait for the question to complete. >The character '@' will kill the entire line, >while the character '#' will erase the last character typed. > >RP03 at address 176710?: n >RP04/5/6 at address 176700?: n >RL01 at address 174400?: y >Drive number (0-3)?: 0 >Disk drive 0 selected. > >Mount a formatted pack on drive 0. >Ready?: y > >TU10/TM11 at address 172520?: y >Drive number (0-7)?: 0 >Tape drive 0 selected. > >The tape on drive 0 will be read from the current position >at 800bpi, 5120 characters (10 blocks) per record, >and written onto the pack on drive 0 starting at block 0. > >Ready?: y >Size of filesystem to be copied is 6000 blocks. >What is the pack volume label? (e.g. p0001): >The pack will be labelled p0001. >The boot block for your type of disk drive will now be installed. > >The file system copy is now complete. > >To boot the basic unix for your disk and tape drives >as indicated above, mount this pack on drive 0 >and read in the boot block (block 0) using >whatever means you have available; see romboot(8), 70boot(8). > >Then boot the program unixrltm using diskboot(8). >Normally: #0=unixrltm > >The system will initially come up single-user; see init(8). >If you have an upper case only console terminal, >you must execute: stty lcase; see stty(1). > >After UNIX is up, link the file unixrltm to unix using ln(1). > # ln /unixrltm /unix > >Set the date(1). > >Good Luck! > >The tape will now be rewound. > > >HALT instruction, PC: 002460 (BR 2456) >sim> boot rl0 >#0=unixrltm >ka6 = 1512 >aps = 141774 >pc = 1476 ps = 30010 >trap type 0 >ka6 = 1512 >aps = 141666 >pc = 113444 ps = 30300 >trap type 0 >panic: trap > ><< sys3.simh.bootstrap >> ><< mksys3tap.pl >> >_______________________________________________ >TUHS mailing list >TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org >http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

21 years, 7 months

SCO removed the anchient UNIX offer web page

by Kenneth Stailey

http://www.sco.com/offers/ancient_unix.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sco.com/offers/ancient_unix.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

21 years, 7 months

Re: [TUHS] What about the license from Jan 23, 2002?

by norman＠nose.cs.utoronto.ca

Just to clarify, what Brantley has is his own copy of the Bill Broderick letter, printed from the PDF file. If it's valid, it is effectively unrevokable anyway as it grants permission to use and distribute freely to anyone as long as credit to Caldera is maintained. But as long as nobody has a signed original it may be messy to prove that it's valid. On the other hand, I assume that if it can be shown that Caldera were aware of the letter and behaved as if it were valid, there are no secrets left to protect in V7 or 32/V. On the other leg, however, that letter doesn't open up System III. Norman Wilson Toronto ON

21 years, 7 months

What about the license from Jan 23, 2002?

by bwc＠coraid.com

I've got a sheet of paper here that is a license from Caldera dated January 23, 2002. Isn't that the current license? I don't see any timer limit on the license. Brantley

21 years, 7 months

Re: [TUHS] My response to SCO vs. Linux

by Carl Lowenstein

> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:46:27 +0930 > From: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog(a)lemis.com> > To: zmkm zmkm <new_zmkm(a)hotmail.com> > Content-Disposition: inline > > On Thursday, 12 June 2003 at 11:31:52 +0000, zmkm zmkm wrote: > > > > Good old dear BSD , where is it ?? still fighting a niche turf , why > > it didn?t burst in the open ? > > Glad you asked. It was the victim of a law suit ten years ago. Don't > underestimate what the current legal challenges can do to Linux. > > Greg In case you are referring to the BSD vs. AT&T suit, BSD won. carl

21 years, 7 months

Re: [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation

by zmkm zmkm

Hi all what about eVAX ??? , any one tried this ? is it any good ?? Akito I don't know if you got my earlier email it was bounced back earlier today from TUHS any way v32 doesn't support virtual memory. zmkm >From: Kenneth Stailey <kstailey(a)yahoo.com> >To: Akito Fujita <akito_fujita(a)mvg.biglobe.ne.jp>, tuhs(a)tuhs.org >CC: Akito Fujita <akito_fujita(a)mvg.biglobe.ne.jp> >Subject: Re: [TUHS] VAX-11/780 emulation >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:26:26 -0700 (PDT) > > >--- Akito Fujita <akito_fujita(a)mvg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote: > > Hi > > > > I have a plan to run UNIX/32V using SIMH. > > > > UNIX/32V is required VAX-11/780 > > and SIMH support Micro VAX III (?) only. > > Is it possible without any modification ? > >VAX-11/780 is a unibus VAX. >Micro VAX III / SIMH VAX is a Qbus VAX. > >http://world.std.com/~bdc/projects/vaxen/vax-perf.html > >SIMH is "Mayfair III" on that page. > > > Does anyone try this ? > > Are there more better emulator than SIMH ? > > or Should I add the feature of 11/780 emulation into SIHM ? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > - Akito > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TUHS mailing list > > TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! >http://sbc.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >TUHS mailing list >TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org >http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

21 years, 7 months

VAX-11/780 emulation

by Akito Fujita

Hi I have a plan to run UNIX/32V using SIMH. UNIX/32V is required VAX-11/780 and SIMH support Micro VAX III (?) only. Is it possible without any modification ? Does anyone try this ? Are there more better emulator than SIMH ? or Should I add the feature of 11/780 emulation into SIHM ? Thanks - Akito

21 years, 7 months

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