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by Fred N. van Kempen

Bill, kernel probably only supports one unit, _OR_ the filesystem doesnt have all device nodes (/dev/rlXXX). --f > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Gunshannon [mailto:bill@cs.scranton.edu] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:08 PM > To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org > Subject: [pups] 2.11 on an 11/44 > > > > I am trying to put 2.11 on one of my 11/44's. I picked up the RL02/RK > images from the archive. I put the RL02 images on real RL02's (Yes, > some of us still have and use them!! :-) My intent was to boot this > and then use it to build a system on a bigger disk and then go on from > there. > > Here's my configuration: > > 11/44 CPU > CIS > EIS > FP11 > 4M memory (actually 3840KB) > MMU > > 3 RL02 disks > A CDU/720-TM SCSI Controller with 4 MAXTOR 340M disks and a QIC tape > > Now the problem. > The system boots fine. And it will mount /dev/rl1a. But it > won't mount > /dev/rl2a. I get "/dev/rl2a on /vol2: No such device or address". > I get the same error when I try to do a disklabel. What's > more, I also > get this same error when I try to access any of the RA devices. I am > using the GENERIC Kernel which I assume has all the devices in it. > > Anybody have any suggestions?? > > Of course, if I find that the SCSI Controller isn't going to work > I have another controller and a FUJI Eagle I could use too. But I > am certain I will need to get all three RL's working in order to > have enough of a system to do this. > > Thanks in advance, > > bill > > -- > Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. > Three wolves > bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton | > Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h> > > _______________________________________________ > PUPS mailing list > PUPS(a)minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups >

21 years, 11 months

Status of, and licensing of the so called "Ancient UNIX" products

by Gregg C Levine

Hello again from Gregg C Levine I know I asked this question early on, and I remember, and have the original answer filed someplace.... But that was about a year ago. Since then I had heard a rumor that the current Copyright Owner of the "Ancient UNIX" products had in fact re-released the products under the exact same license that both Minix, and BSD use. In fact they could called a freely releasable product. Can someone on this list confirm this? On a different list, for a different emulator, to which that I belong, we there, are having a discussion regarding the status of these products. I agreed with a correspondent that the BSD ones, such as 2.11, and 2.9 were in fact freely available, pending a response that is. I am suggesting there, that someone should investigate porting either V5, or V6, or even V7 to that platform. And someone naturally is making that complaint. Someone else is also claiming that Amdahl did just that, and sold it under the name UTS. But as you might guess, it is not freely available. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )

21 years, 11 months

Festoon

by Dennis Ritchie

I have the version of festoon, as enhanced by Nils-Peter Nelson, and as Norman Wilson said, mainly and originally done by Ron Hardin. When the Usenet interchange referred to happened, I asked Ron whether he wanted to release it, and the response was > fine with me > npn's version is at /home/rhh/coma/festoon/fest.c > with pics and tbls > i've lost the original Incidentally, Hardin worked for Bell Labs, though at the Columbus location also occupied by Western Electric, and until fairly recently was a consultant for our own and nearby groups. The first Google pages for "hardin sloane" yields a bunch of references to his joint work with the well-known mathematician N. J. A. Sloane. Binary, but not source, was with research 8th edition, and may have escaped otherwise. I'll make the source available to scholars if there's interest. It even compiles on Plan 9 (with ape). Dennis

21 years, 11 months

AT&T Package Design (fwd)

by Warren Toomey

----- Forwarded message from Lange, David ----- From: "Lange, David" <Extern.David.Lange(a)gedas.com> Subject: AT&T Package Design Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:25:18 -0500 Just wondering who actually designed the AT&T UNIX package utility. I have to admit the documentation of this utility is rather sparse in term of examples of scripting problems and handling the I/O. Did internal AT&T documentation have any more information or did it merely consist of the source? I'm interested in creating patches and dependencies between packages. Any information or insight would be welcome. Regards. D. Lange ----- End of forwarded message from Lange, David -----

21 years, 11 months

[pups] DHV11 on BSD2.9

by Christos Papachristou

The driver is for a DIVA COMP V controller. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Toomey" <wkt(a)minnie.tuhs.org> > To: "Christos Papachristou" <chpap(a)ics.forth.gr> > Cc: <pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 5:45 AM > Subject: Re: [pups] DHV11 on BSD2.9 > > > > In article by Christos Papachristou: > > > I have read in a message by Steve Schultz that there are 2.9BSD drivers > for > > > the DHV11-A around. Can I still find them? > > > > How about: > > > > ./net/sys/dev/dvhp.c in PDP-11/Distributions/ucb/2.9BSD/usr.tar.gz > > > > P.S zgrepping lists/full_filelist.gz in the Archive is very useful! > > > > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > > PUPS mailing list > > PUPS(a)minnie.tuhs.org > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups >

21 years, 11 months

[pups] (no subject)

by Christos Papachristou

A few questions from a newbie: I have installed 2.9BSD on a microPDP11/73 with an RD52, using the MSCP version of Jonathan Engdahl. After startup the kernel indicates 160kb of memory .I am not familiar with such an old unix to find out the details but I understand it as 256k minus the kernel. The memory is M8067-LF i.e. 512k Qbus. Does this mean that the system can't see the rest of it and that I have configure/recompile the kernel? The system seems anyway to run fine. I haven't seen an operational PDP with UNIX before this, so I can't judge its speed. When in single user mode it seems to me that it runs "fast". However upon entering multi user mode the speed drops dramaticaly. I have not yet compiled in the 8 port multiplexer (DHV11-A), so only the console is functional and thus no gettys are loaded. So ,why is there such a change in speed? Does the multiuser mode just rise the nice value of the console tasks? Some information on the system. It is a KDJ11-B (M8190 -no suffix) i.e. an 11/84. So, the label on the system says microPDP11/73 (in an BA23 enclosure) the cpu is an 11/84 (if the FPU socket is the DIP-40 slot then it is unused), and the 2.11BSD second stage boot (version from vtserver) I have tried indicates 11/83. The memory is after the CPU and is Qbus (M867-LF). If I have understood what I have read in the list, this must be a mixed system that could use PMI memory, but just uses Qbus?? What exactly is my system? . Moreover the MSCP controller (M8639 YP i.e. RQDX1) the serial port multiplexer(M3104 i.e. DHV11-A) and the memory are Qbus while the cpu board is indicated as Unibus in the field guide. Can these two bus type s be mixed? (If yes , i would be tempted to abuse the dead VAX11/780 in the basement. Can this be done?). Anyway, I thought that the best choice of a UNIX for it since it only has an RD52 woulbe 2.9 BSD with MSCP support. Was this a good guess?

21 years, 11 months

[pups] E-11 and 2.9BSD

by Gregg C Levine

Hello from Gregg C Levine Okay, here goes: I have the current version of E-11 booting correctly on my Windows based, (Currently!), backup box. I have booted the 2.9BSD image found in the boot images directory from the FTP server. Does any one have any suggestions as to how to restore an entire system to an E-11 based setup? I have a bunch of empties that were created by John Wilson for his emulator. By the way, Warren your instructions for using the version that's on the FTP server worked with this one. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )

21 years, 11 months

[pups] Success!

by Christopher McNabb

Well, here are the results of my weekends "hacking": --------------------------- $ uname -a 2.11BSD pdp11.4mcnabb.net 2.11BSD 2.11 BSD UNIX #3: Fri Feb 21 21:00:58 PST 2003 root@:/usr/src/sys/PDP1183 pdp11 $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ra0a 10078 3009 7069 30% / /dev/ra0c 10078 2 10076 0% /tmp /dev/ra0d 90718 40963 49755 45% /usr /dev/ra0e 38206 29414 8792 77% /users $ sysctl hw hw.machine = pdp11 hw.model = 83 hw.ncpu = 1 hw.byteorder = 3412 hw.physmem = 2097152 hw.usermem = 0 hw.pagesize = 1024 $ dmesg Feb 25 12:02 ... <5>ra0: Ver 2 mod 3 ra0: RD54 size=311200 attaching qe0 csr 174440 qe0: DEC DEQNA addr 08:00:2b:07:b7:53 attaching lo0 phys mem = 2097152 avail mem = 1727488 user mem = 307200 ----------------------------------------------- The machine is an 11/83 with 2 megs of ram, DEQNA, single RD54, TSV05, TK50, and 3 DHV11s. Now it looks like all I have left to do is install 400 odd patches. -- Christopher L McNabb Tel: 540 231 7554 Operating Systems Analyst Email: cmcnabb(a)vt.edu Virginia Tech ICBM: 37.205622N 80.414595W GMRS: WPSR255 ARS: N2UX Grid Sq: EM97SD

21 years, 11 months

Festoon

by Tim Bradshaw

Does anyone remember this program (probably /usr/games/festoon) and in which Unixes it was distributed? I think it must have existed in at least some BSDs, but I'm fairly sure it wasn't in the ordinary 4.3 distribution. --tim

21 years, 11 months

Re: [TUHS] Festoon

by norman＠nose.cs.utoronto.ca

Ron Hardin, who worked at Western Electric in Columbus (I think) at the time, confirms that he is the author: Festoon was mine, chiefly written one Saturday with a tragically flawed copy of Lester's _Introductory Transformational Grammar of English_ bought that morning on a $1 table at Woolworth on my knee. The tragic flaw was that there are severe lexical constraints on language, which is why there are so many made-up words in festoon, to avoid them. The introduction of awful phrases came in reaction to writer's workbench from Lorinda Cherry, which had a real mine of them; and phrases from my boss, S D Hester, who was a wretched writer. People contributed on noticing that. It was greatly helped by troff (``The _pay_ people to write this crap?'' is a typical reaction. Apparently it was not out of the question for Western Electric.) Norman Wilson Toronto ON On the internet, nobody can tell you're whether you're on the internet.

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