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by John Chung

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21 years, 11 months

[pups] Blinky lights, and E-11

by Gregg C Levine

Hello from Gregg C Levine In the documentation for E-11, John Wilson, describes the "blinky lights", essentially eight LEDs attached to the printer port of an IBM-PC that's running his emulator. Has anyone ever built one of those things, using either a PC board blank from John Wilson, or decided to build one on his own? For that matter, has anyone actually used it, to assist in the debugging of a program, running on his emulator? I'll probably e-mail John Wilson about this one directly, but, has anyone written a custom plug-in, that would have the printer port, pose as an I/O port for the emulator? ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )

21 years, 11 months

Re: [pups] CDROM drives and PDP-11s

by Carl Lowenstein

> From: "Ian King" <iking(a)killthewabbit.org> > To: "Gregg C Levine" <hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net>, <pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org> > Subject: Re: [pups] CDROM drives and PDP-11s > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:52:54 -0800 > > John Wilson's PUTR program might be jut the tool - http://www.dbit.com. I'm > guessing it might be ODS-2; worst case, I have an InfoServer that can read > that, and a TK-50 I could dump it to... :-) -- Ian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregg C Levine" <hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net> > To: <pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:46 PM > Subject: [pups] CDROM drives and PDP-11s > > Hello from Gregg C Levine > Here's the problem. I have several CDs containing programs, and such > like from Tim Shoppa. Two of them say they contain portions which are > readable only by a CDROM Drive attached to a PDP-11. One of them is > split in half. Half is readable on either of the two computers here, > the other half, is in a format that's native to the PDP-11. The other > is all in that proprietary format. So, has anyone managed to get them > read to their machines? Or failing that to the appropriate simulators, > or even emulators? Any suggestions? When I look at "readme.txt" on my RT11 disk from Tim Shoppa I find the following paragraph: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The second part of the disk is seven RT-11 partitions. Each is a 65536 block RT-11 device that is accessible on a PDP-11 machine with a SCSI host adapter and a SCSI CD-ROM drive. They appear as RT-11 DU partitions 13 through 19. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The implication to me is that any of these partitions could be copied to a 32MB file on a hard drive, and then attached to the PDP11 simulator of your choice and read as an RT-11 drive. The tool I would use for copying the partition is dd(1). dd if=/mnt/cdrom bs=32M skip=13 count=1 of=dskimg This requires that you have 32MB available RAM for the dd "copy in" and 32MB available disk space for the dd "copy out". You could trade off a smaller "bs" for a more complicated calculation of the "skip". I suppose I am making the assumption that this work is being done on a Unix-like system, which seems reasonable in the PUPS context. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenst(a)ucsd.edu

21 years, 11 months

Re: [pups] 2.11 on an 11/44

by Steven M. Schultz

Hi - > From: Bill Gunshannon <bill(a)cs.scranton.edu> > Well, the fun continues. I guess it's not going to be as simple as > > When I try to build a custom kernel I get this: > > cc -O -DKERNEL -DUOFS -I. -I../h -S ../sys/kern_clock.c > /bin/ed - < SPLFIX kern_clock.s > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ---------------------- > And the "?" go on forever. Can't even break out of it. Have to > kill the simulation and start all over. Anybody run into this?? I have an extremely vague memory I might have seen it eons upon eons ago but I might be imaginging it. > Seems to be in the clock code. Is there something I might have Hmmm, '?' is "ed"s error indication. I wonder if the '?' is coming out of ed and not SIMH? > missed in the CONFIG file that could cause this?? All I basicly Not at this stage of the build - a config file error wouldn't allow the first few compiles to succeed and then start causing errors on kern_clock.c One thing I did notice though was the use of 'ed' - that tells me the patchlevel of the system is very low (i.e. old). 'ed' was replaced with 'sed' which sped things up a _lot_ - and that took place back around #325 in 1996. Have you tried P11 instead of SIMH? When I'm too lazy to fire up the 11/73 I use P11 to do the testing/patching and so on. It's a bit a pain to configure (really arcane configfile syntax) but it works very well - never had a problem with it. Good Luck. Steven Schultz

21 years, 11 months

[pups] 2.11BSD and Top

by Christopher McNabb

Does anyone know if there is a command like 'top' for 2.11 BSD? -- Christopher L McNabb Tel: 540 231 7554 Operating Systems Analyst Email: cmcnabb(a)vt.edu Virginia Tech ICBM: 37.205622N 80.414595W GMRS: WPSR255 ARS: N2UX Grid Sq: EM97SD

21 years, 11 months

Re: [pups] 2.11 on an 11/44

by norman＠nose.cs.utoronto.ca

It seems to me it's time to go back to basics: Tell us what happens if you do ls -l /dev/rl2a and, if that file exists (as seems likely), od /dev/rl2a Diagnosing a problem of this sort solely by the mutterings of the mount command is a bit like trying to decide what is causing your back pain and therefore how to treat it by the tone of your voice when you say `ouch.' (Hmm, perhaps I have just invented a lucrative new paramedical discipline, on a par with chiropractic and cold-laser therapy and homeopathy and software consulting.) Norman Wilson Toronto ON

21 years, 11 months

Re: Fw: A milestone from Australian computing history

by wtoomey＠staff.bond.edu.au

In article by Max Burnet: > From: Bob Supnik <bsupnik(a)earthlink.net> > To: Max Burnet <mburnet(a)bigpond.net.au> > > I've just finished resurrecting Richard Miller's Wollongong port of UNIX > V6 > > to the Interdata 7/32 (1976-77) - the first UNIX port in history. I hope > > to release a kit over the weekend. > > > > If you have Warren Toomey's mail address, over at PUPS, will you please > > forward this on to him as well? > > > > All the best to you and yours, > > > > /Bob Congratulations Bob!! Warren

21 years, 11 months

[pups] 2.11 on an 11/44

by Bill Gunshannon

I am trying to put 2.11 on one of my 11/44's. I picked up the RL02/RK images from the archive. I put the RL02 images on real RL02's (Yes, some of us still have and use them!! :-) My intent was to boot this and then use it to build a system on a bigger disk and then go on from there. Here's my configuration: 11/44 CPU CIS EIS FP11 4M memory (actually 3840KB) MMU 3 RL02 disks A CDU/720-TM SCSI Controller with 4 MAXTOR 340M disks and a QIC tape Now the problem. The system boots fine. And it will mount /dev/rl1a. But it won't mount /dev/rl2a. I get "/dev/rl2a on /vol2: No such device or address". I get the same error when I try to do a disklabel. What's more, I also get this same error when I try to access any of the RA devices. I am using the GENERIC Kernel which I assume has all the devices in it. Anybody have any suggestions?? Of course, if I find that the SCSI Controller isn't going to work I have another controller and a FUJI Eagle I could use too. But I am certain I will need to get all three RL's working in order to have enough of a system to do this. Thanks in advance, bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

21 years, 11 months

Re: [pups] 2.11 on an 11/44

by Steven M. Schultz

Hi - > From: Bill Gunshannon <bill(a)cs.scranton.edu> > > I am trying to put 2.11 on one of my 11/44's. I picked up the RL02/RK > images from the archive. I put the RL02 images on real RL02's (Yes, > some of us still have and use them!! :-) My intent was to boot this RL drives were reliable (compared to RA81 and RK06/7 drives) if not exactly spacious ;) > 3 RL02 disks > A CDU/720-TM SCSI Controller with 4 MAXTOR 340M disks and a QIC tape > > Now the problem. > The system boots fine. And it will mount /dev/rl1a. But it won't mount > /dev/rl2a. I get "/dev/rl2a on /vol2: No such device or address". What rev of the kernel do you have? First line in /VERSION should have the magic number. > I get the same error when I try to do a disklabel. What's more, I also > get this same error when I try to access any of the RA devices. I am > using the GENERIC Kernel which I assume has all the devices in it. > > Anybody have any suggestions?? What I think is happening is that the system is only configured for 2 RL drives - the change from 2 to 4 happened quite late (patch #439 I think). The RA problem sounds like the MSCP driver either isn't in the kernel or wasn't probed/attached at boot time. You can see if MSCP support's present with something like 'nm -g /unix | grep _raintr" and seeing if you "040364 T _raintr" for the interrupt handler. If you do get that then check /etc/dtab for a line like: ra ? 172150 0 5 raintr # uda50, rqdx1/2/3 The '0' for the vector says for the probe/attach logic to assign a vector and tell the controller what value was used. You could put anything in there (154 or 150 I think is the assigned value for the first MSCP controller). If none of that works then I'm stumped as to why the RA drives can't be accessed. Good Luck. Steven Schultz

21 years, 11 months

[pups] CDROM drives and PDP-11s

by Gregg C Levine

Hello from Gregg C Levine Here's the problem. I have several CDs containing programs, and such like from Tim Shoppa. Two of them say they contain portions which are readable only by a CDROM Drive attached to a PDP-11. One of them is split in half. Half is readable on either of the two computers here, the other half, is in a format that's native to the PDP-11. The other is all in that proprietary format. So, has anyone managed to get them read to their machines? Or failing that to the appropriate simulators, or even emulators? Any suggestions? ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon(a)worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )

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