Hi,
I'm trying to locate a PDP-11 bootstrap for a TS11 or TU80.
I've created a unix v7m distribution tape and want to try and install
from it.
Thanks.
--
TTFN - Guy
Whitesmith under the capable guidance of Plauger - who else - came up with
Idris. And a number of other Un*x clones were duly written at about the same
time, according to:
http://www.robotwisdom.com/linux/nonnix.html
The question is, is it possible to get ahold of those for the early Un*x
hobbyist? Does anyone have any knowledge of their whereabouts, and
(potential) legal statii?
Wesley Parish
--
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
Hi,
Seems that SIMH/PDP11, p11 and ts10 do not simulate older PDP-11's
They appear to cover only /*3 (/23, /53, /73, etc) models.
Am I wrong about this?
Are there any open source emulators for the /40, /45, or /70?
I know about Charon and Esatz.
Thanks,
Ken
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Hi,
Harti's p11 comes with mktape which when given a control file will turn a set
of files into a tape image. Is there anything like this for SIMH PDP-11?
Thanks,
Ken
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I am having difficulty installing SysIII on simh. I have attached my simh
pdp11 ini file (sys3.simh.bootstrap) and the Perl script used to create
the install tape (mksys3tap.pl). Everything seems to go fine while
installing the miniroot, but when I try to boot from the "installed"
system I don't get very far. Below is a transcript. Any ideas?
Andru
$ pdp11 sys3.simh.bootstrap
PDP-11 simulator V2.10-3
RL: creating new file
Create bad block table on last track? [N]
UNIX tape boot loader
UNIX -- Initial Load: Tape-to-Disk
The type of disk drive on which the Root file system will reside,
as well as the type of tape drive that will be used for Tape 1
must be specified below.
Answer the questions with a 'y' or 'n' followed by
a carriage return or line feed.
There is no type-ahead -- wait for the question to complete.
The character '@' will kill the entire line,
while the character '#' will erase the last character typed.
RP03 at address 176710?: n
RP04/5/6 at address 176700?: n
RL01 at address 174400?: y
Drive number (0-3)?: 0
Disk drive 0 selected.
Mount a formatted pack on drive 0.
Ready?: y
TU10/TM11 at address 172520?: y
Drive number (0-7)?: 0
Tape drive 0 selected.
The tape on drive 0 will be read from the current position
at 800bpi, 5120 characters (10 blocks) per record,
and written onto the pack on drive 0 starting at block 0.
Ready?: y
Size of filesystem to be copied is 6000 blocks.
What is the pack volume label? (e.g. p0001):
The pack will be labelled p0001.
The boot block for your type of disk drive will now be installed.
The file system copy is now complete.
To boot the basic unix for your disk and tape drives
as indicated above, mount this pack on drive 0
and read in the boot block (block 0) using
whatever means you have available; see romboot(8), 70boot(8).
Then boot the program unixrltm using diskboot(8).
Normally: #0=unixrltm
The system will initially come up single-user; see init(8).
If you have an upper case only console terminal,
you must execute: stty lcase; see stty(1).
After UNIX is up, link the file unixrltm to unix using ln(1).
# ln /unixrltm /unix
Set the date(1).
Good Luck!
The tape will now be rewound.
HALT instruction, PC: 002460 (BR 2456)
sim> boot rl0
#0=unixrltm
ka6 = 1512
aps = 141774
pc = 1476 ps = 30010
trap type 0
ka6 = 1512
aps = 141666
pc = 113444 ps = 30300
trap type 0
panic: trap
Andu
wouldn't be easier to load it through dsk (I mean download the complete tar
and make a dsk out of it) .
zmkm
>From: Andru Luvisi <luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu>
>Reply-To: Andru Luvisi <luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu>
>To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org
>Subject: [TUHS] Installing SysIII on simh?
>Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I am having difficulty installing SysIII on simh. I have attached my simh
>pdp11 ini file (sys3.simh.bootstrap) and the Perl script used to create
>the install tape (mksys3tap.pl). Everything seems to go fine while
>installing the miniroot, but when I try to boot from the "installed"
>system I don't get very far. Below is a transcript. Any ideas?
>
>Andru
>
>
>$ pdp11 sys3.simh.bootstrap
>
>PDP-11 simulator V2.10-3
>RL: creating new file
>Create bad block table on last track? [N]
>UNIX tape boot loader
>UNIX -- Initial Load: Tape-to-Disk
>
>The type of disk drive on which the Root file system will reside,
>as well as the type of tape drive that will be used for Tape 1
>must be specified below.
>
>Answer the questions with a 'y' or 'n' followed by
>a carriage return or line feed.
>There is no type-ahead -- wait for the question to complete.
>The character '@' will kill the entire line,
>while the character '#' will erase the last character typed.
>
>RP03 at address 176710?: n
>RP04/5/6 at address 176700?: n
>RL01 at address 174400?: y
>Drive number (0-3)?: 0
>Disk drive 0 selected.
>
>Mount a formatted pack on drive 0.
>Ready?: y
>
>TU10/TM11 at address 172520?: y
>Drive number (0-7)?: 0
>Tape drive 0 selected.
>
>The tape on drive 0 will be read from the current position
>at 800bpi, 5120 characters (10 blocks) per record,
>and written onto the pack on drive 0 starting at block 0.
>
>Ready?: y
>Size of filesystem to be copied is 6000 blocks.
>What is the pack volume label? (e.g. p0001):
>The pack will be labelled p0001.
>The boot block for your type of disk drive will now be installed.
>
>The file system copy is now complete.
>
>To boot the basic unix for your disk and tape drives
>as indicated above, mount this pack on drive 0
>and read in the boot block (block 0) using
>whatever means you have available; see romboot(8), 70boot(8).
>
>Then boot the program unixrltm using diskboot(8).
>Normally: #0=unixrltm
>
>The system will initially come up single-user; see init(8).
>If you have an upper case only console terminal,
>you must execute: stty lcase; see stty(1).
>
>After UNIX is up, link the file unixrltm to unix using ln(1).
> # ln /unixrltm /unix
>
>Set the date(1).
>
>Good Luck!
>
>The tape will now be rewound.
>
>
>HALT instruction, PC: 002460 (BR 2456)
>sim> boot rl0
>#0=unixrltm
>ka6 = 1512
>aps = 141774
>pc = 1476 ps = 30010
>trap type 0
>ka6 = 1512
>aps = 141666
>pc = 113444 ps = 30300
>trap type 0
>panic: trap
>
><< sys3.simh.bootstrap >>
><< mksys3tap.pl >>
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Just to clarify, what Brantley has is his own copy of the Bill
Broderick letter, printed from the PDF file. If it's valid, it
is effectively unrevokable anyway as it grants permission to use
and distribute freely to anyone as long as credit to Caldera is
maintained. But as long as nobody has a signed original it may
be messy to prove that it's valid.
On the other hand, I assume that if it can be shown that Caldera
were aware of the letter and behaved as if it were valid, there
are no secrets left to protect in V7 or 32/V.
On the other leg, however, that letter doesn't open up System III.
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
I've got a sheet of paper here that is a license from Caldera dated
January 23, 2002. Isn't that the current license? I don't see any timer
limit on the license.
Brantley
> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:46:27 +0930
> From: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog(a)lemis.com>
> To: zmkm zmkm <new_zmkm(a)hotmail.com>
> Content-Disposition: inline
>
> On Thursday, 12 June 2003 at 11:31:52 +0000, zmkm zmkm wrote:
> >
> > Good old dear BSD , where is it ?? still fighting a niche turf , why
> > it didn?t burst in the open ?
>
> Glad you asked. It was the victim of a law suit ten years ago. Don't
> underestimate what the current legal challenges can do to Linux.
>
> Greg
In case you are referring to the BSD vs. AT&T suit, BSD won.
carl
