whilst looking around the bitsavers.org pdf archive, I
found a document called
PreliminaryUnixImplementationDocument_Jun72.pdf.
Having had a quick scan through, it contains a source
code listing and some commentary (lions i hear you
say). The strange thing is that all of the source code
appears to be in assembler...
whats this about?
is it a comentary of PDP-7 unix?
regards
Martin
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On 6/15/06, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog(a)lemis.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 14 June 2006 at 16:24:29 -0700, Martin Lovick wrote:
> > whilst looking around the bitsavers.org pdf archive, I found a
> > document called PreliminaryUnixImplementationDocument_Jun72.pdf.
>
> Can you give a full URL for this document? I've taken a brief look at
> the list in http://bitsavers.org/pdf/, but nothing jumped out at me.
< http://bitsavers.org/pdf/bellLabs/unix/PreliminaryUnixImplementationDocumen…
>
carl
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Martin Lovick remarked,
> whilst looking around the bitsavers.org pdf archive, I
> found a document called
> PreliminaryUnixImplementationDocument_Jun72.pdf.
> Having had a quick scan through, it contains a source
> code listing and some commentary (lions i hear you
> say). The strange thing is that all of the source code
> appears to be in assembler...
> whats this about?
> is it a comentary of PDP-7 unix?
It is a fairly early version, with commentary, of PDP-11 Unix (the kernel),
indeed still in assembler. It is an interesting find, probably
the earliest version yet unearthed. Kossow told me about
it when he did (or got) the scan of the document.
I can't remember receiving it at the time.
It is clearly different from what we in the research
group were running at the time--it has devices we didn't have,
and I think by then we were on the 11/45.
Dennis
This is a long New York Times article with a lot of detail.
They say there'll be at least one public open house before it's
demolished. I think you can now read a limited number of NY Times
articles without subscribing (they seem to count how many you read
-- maybe with a cookie). Here's the URL:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/14/realestate/commercial/14bell.html
Jerry
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Hi,
last week a work mate told us a tale about how Unix came to its
name. He believes that Unix is named after the term eunuch (a
homophone of (to?) unix in english language). One can see Unix as a
castrated successor of Multics. Hmmm, I am interested in Unix history
for several years now, but I haven't heard about that before. It is
really a tale I guess. Any clear words about this topic?
Michael
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http://www.c0t0d0s0.de/biff4emacsen/biff4emacsen.html
Hi,
"Bill Cunningham" <billcu1(a)verizon.net> writes:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Welle" <m.welle(a)gmx.net>
> To: <tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 9:57 AM
> Subject: [TUHS] Unix, eunuchs?
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> last week a work mate told us a tale about how Unix came to its
>> name. He believes that Unix is named after the term eunuch (a
>> homophone of (to?) unix in english language). One can see Unix as a
>> castrated successor of Multics. Hmmm, I am interested in Unix history
>> for several years now, but I haven't heard about that before. It is
>> really a tale I guess. Any clear words about this topic?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
> I know Dennis have said pretty clearly that Unix is a pun on Multics
> that the team really never got to start on because Bell changed there minds.
> Ken continued with Unix which must've been his idea. In assembly first then
> B. Dennis came up with C and its lasted down through the years.
that sounds familiar to me. The same story is told in 'A quarter
century of Unix' and other sources.
VG
hmw
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> There's a reason Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson have been awarded
> the U.S. National Medal of Technology (1998) and are fellows of the
> Computer History Museum Online. Dave Cutler hasn't and isn't.
> "You are not expected to understand this."
And while I think this is a little unfair to Dave that's a great .sig
It goes well with the recent post about Unix vs NT that concluded about
NT "there is no there there". I live on both platforms and I couldn't
agree more.
Some day I'll post my view on this but here is the really short summary.
There are two classes of people: those who derive answers and those who
memorize them. As Mark Twain said, the latter group is much larger than
the former. My claim is that Unix appeals to the first group - you can
guess what it is going to do and you'll be right most of the time.
Windows appeals to the other group. They don't have the ability to derive
any answer and they are comfortable with a system that mostly works but
has "no there there". They can't tell the difference.
The sad part (and the good part!) is that all of us on this list are
in the former group which is smaller. I think we (well, many of us)
wish that more people thought like we do and figured stuff out for
themselves but the reality is that most people aren't inclined to do that.
So the good and bad part is that we're a small select group. Personally,
I've come to accept that and like it. I've gotten to the point where I
realize that people who can derive the answer are special, they are gift,
and I consider myself lucky when I run into a concentrated group of them.
Cough, cough, that would be you. :)
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.comhttp://www.bitkeeper.com
A great read Greg and so true too. Thanks for posting that.
I particularly liked the bit about the overheard conversation in Palo Alto
"there used to be a shrimp-and-pasta plate here under ten bucks. Let me
see...cat menu | grep shrimp | test -lt $10..." though not syntactically
correct (and less-than-scintillating conversation), a diner from an NT shop
probably couldn't have expressed himself as casually.
This reminded me of a time not so long ago when I was seated in Starbucks in
Menlo Park enjoying my Caramel Macchiato Venti and overhearing a heated
debate between 6 or 7 guys about the GUI vs. command line issue. It seemed
to start when a couple of guys in one party, seemingly unknown to the other
party, who were talking about kde, rudely butted in to their conversation.
Anyway the debate got so verbal that in the end they were all ushered out of
Starbucks in an effort to keep the peace. How funny it was.
Cheers,
Berny
A somewhat different view on the Starbucks story:
A friend of mine moved here from New Mexico (which is a fantastic place to
live, amazing, I used to live there) and she said "It's unbelievable - you
can watch people and realize that they are actually thinking before they
are talking".
Indeed. I'd rather be in the midst of rude people thinking than any sort
of people not thinking.
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