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by Bill Gunshannon

Does anyon know if any of the Unix versions for the Integrated Soulutions 68K CPU (the one that went in QBUS boxes) is still in existence and available anywhere? Also, there wre alternate PROMS that did MACSBUG is there any chance someone here knows if that is available any where? bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

17 years, 3 months

Re: [TUHS] Banyan Vines? Banyan/ePresence dissolves self

by Janet Sala

My recollection from those days was that Banyan Vines was developed in collaboration with DEC. I think it would have been more likely that it was BSD or (eek) ULTRIX based. I was working on system and network management at AT&T USO/USL/Novell/HP until 1997 and never heard it mentioned that Banyan Vines was on any sort of System V license though we were all quite aware of the product. I think I would have heard something if they were ³one of ours.² Given the timeframe it would more likely have been some sort of 7th edition license, but in those days BSD would have been the more logical choice. This is just my recollection, however. I¹ll see what I can track down in terms of facts. Very truly yours, - janet Janet Frazer Sala > > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:56:26 -0700 > From: Andrew Warkentin <andreww(a)datanet.ab.ca> > Subject: Re: [TUHS] Banyan Vines? Banyan/ePresence dissolves self > To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org > Message-ID: <47A18D3A.5090401(a)datanet.ab.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Wesley Parish wrote: > >> >Who would one need to get in touch with, to ask about the possibility of >> >getting the various obsolete Banyan Vines bits and pieces donated to TUHS? >> >(It was based on a Unix kernel, so I would say it - one of the first NOSes >> to >> >have a directory - should be part of the TUHS repository.) >> > >> > > Wasn't it based on System V? Wouldn't that prevent it from being > released? (unless they made a similar deal with AT&T to the one Sun > made, which is very unlikely)

17 years, 3 months

Banyan Vines? Banyan/ePresence dissolves self

by Wesley Parish

I was reading Graklaw for more-of-the-same - boneheaded companies taking on productive people with intent to reduce dangerous productivity in favour of monopolizing transaction tokens ie, money - and I came across the article on some_bright_spark suing some other company for daring to try protecting networks from email-borne spam: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080125135544713 Which got me thinking - Banyan Vines was a player back then, and the comments mentioned only Novell. Surely there's something about Banyan's Vines? I did a google search and found this: http://www.bizjournals.com/masshightech/stories/2007/12/24/daily7.html?ana=… Wednesday, December 26, 2007 Liquidating ePresence distributes cash Mass High Tech: The Journal of New England Technology <snip> Framingham's ePresence Inc. reports a plan to distribute cash to its shareholders as part of its dissolution plan. The distribution of $3.6 million, or 14 cents per common share, is expected to be paid this week to those who were ePresence shareholders as of June 23, 2004. The distribution, combined with the previous distributions totaling $4.15 per share, would return a total $4.29 per share to ePresence shareholders, company officials said. EPresence was launched in 1983 as Banyan Systems, selling a network operating system and directory. But competitors such as Novell Inc. and Microsoft Corp. subsequently moved into that market and Banyan switched focus in 1997. In 2003, ePresence sold it services business to Unisys Corp. for $11.5 million. In 2004, the company sold its online telephone directory division Switchboard Inc. to Bellevue, Wash.-based InfoSpace Inc. for $160 million. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who would one need to get in touch with, to ask about the possibility of getting the various obsolete Banyan Vines bits and pieces donated to TUHS? (It was based on a Unix kernel, so I would say it - one of the first NOSes to have a directory - should be part of the TUHS repository.) Thanks Wesley Parish -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish ----- Gaul is quartered into three halves. Things which are impossible are equal to each other. Guerrilla warfare means up to their monkey tricks. Extracts from "Schoolboy Howlers" - the collective wisdom of the foolish. ----- Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.

17 years, 3 months

Re: [TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 5

by lm＠bitmover.com

I'm pinging my contacts to see if I can find a place to host a mirror. I think that Oregon State Open Source Lab has a fat link to the net and I used to know Scott K but he's moved on. If I get anywhere I'll get back to the list. BTW, whoever is the listmom, can you change me from digest to regular? -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com

17 years, 4 months

tropix

by Jose R. Valverde

Looking at the UNIX tree chart as I do from time to time to re-search for old UNIX, I came this time over TROPIX, which is a UNIX-like system developed from scratch on Brazil in their "IT cold war" times. The system is now open source and can be found at http://allegro.nce.ufrj.br/tropix/index.html the pages are in Portuguese (sic) but one may get install media and the full source code (Código Fonte). I wonder it if would be sensible to store a copy of it on TUHS as well. In any case, I've added it to the collection at ftp://ftp.es.embnet.org/pub/misc/os/UNIX/tropix I've run it on QEMU and it's got a somewhat distinctive look and feel (and command set). Curious to say the least. The major drawback is that it is all in Portuguese. j -- These opinions are mine and only mine. Hey man, I saw them first! José R. Valverde De nada sirve la Inteligencia Artificial cuando falta la Natural

17 years, 4 months

TUHS archives and rsync

by Jose R. Valverde

On the TUHS site there is a list of other available sites. If you want you can try mine (ftp.es.embnet.org/pub/misc/TUHS) but be advised that I try to keep copies of more things than the original site and it may be bigger. I can't remember offhand now if rsync was set up or not and I'm now on holidays abroad so it's difficult to check (mainly due to the strange french keyboard). Anyway, you're welcome and I will make sure rsync works (when I'm back on January) at my site. j -- These opinions are mine and only mine. Hey man, I saw them first! José R. Valverde De nada sirve la Inteligencia Artificial cuando falta la Natural

17 years, 4 months

Re: [TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 44, Issue 3

by lm＠bitmover.com

> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:58:40 +0000 > From: Tim Bradshaw <tfb(a)tfeb.org> > Subject: Re: [TUHS] HP Apollo Series 400 and DOMAIN/OS... > To: Wilko Bulte <wb(a)freebie.xs4all.nl> > Cc: tuhs(a)tuhs.org, asbesto <asbesto(a)freaknet.org> > Message-ID: <CAC4A7E7-B4E5-41FA-BA05-7707366B6215(a)tfeb.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > On 21 Dec 2007, at 12:31, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > You could have DomainOS take a BSD or a SysV personality. Very > > interesting. > > Very tangentially, Masscomp's RTU (real time Unix) could do this > too. Other than that I think it is definitely something best > forgotten, as it was pretty horrid (although my memory may be biassed > by the awfulness of the HW) Oh, I have fond memories of the Masscomp. That's where I learned how to do sys admin (recovered from an rm -rf /) as well as networking (based on 4.1c BSD as I recall, plus hacks). Masscomp had a really nicely redone version of the socket programming docs that was most helpful at the time. I was ..!uwvax!geowhiz!geophys!lm as I recall and all the geo* were Masscomps. Ah, the joys of 20 users on a 40MB disk. That's why I wrote something that turned Honeyman's time optimal but space worst case pathalias db into O(time optimal) as well as O(space best case). Only dynamic programming alg I've ever done and written up. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com

17 years, 4 months

HP Apollo Series 400 and DOMAIN/OS...

by asbesto

Hi! We just recovered an HP APOLLO Series 400 in our computer museum, and we got the installation tapes of DOMAIN/OS. It seem a very particular flavour of BSD 5.3. We also made a dump of the tapes, to preserve it. :D Does someone know more about it? What about licensing? Is it covered by some sort of hobbyist license? Kisses to everybody! :) asbesto/freaknet computer museum http://museum.freaknet.org -- [ 73 de IW9HGS : freaknet medialab : radiocybernet : poetry hacklab] [ http://freaknet.org/asbesto - http://papuasia.org/radiocybernet ] [ NON SCRIVERMI USANDO LETTERE ACCENTATE! - NON MANDARMI ALLEGATI ] [ *I DELETE* EMAIL > 100K, ATTACHMENTS, HTML, M$-WORD DOC and SPAM ]

17 years, 4 months

Anyone have a copy of the TUHS archive available for rsync?

by Aharon Robbins

Hi. Warren and I seem to be on opposite ends of the world network wise, such that I am unable to rsync to minnie to keep my copy of the TUHS archive up to date. Does anyone out there in TUHS land have a copy they're willing to make available for syncing? Thanks! Arnold Robbins

17 years, 4 months

test / [

by Tim Bradshaw

Does anyone know (remember) which Unices had .../bin/[ be a link to .../bin/test. I remember this being the case, but it is not so on any recent Solaris. It is the case on my Mac, so in at least one BSD derivative. I looked through a 7th edition tarball from the archive and it's not the case there. So my guess is that it is a BSDism, and it probably was the case in SunOS 4 and before, and I guess on at least 4.2BSD & later. Thanks --tim

17 years, 5 months

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