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by nao

Hi, I could make SIMH VAX-11/780 emulator run 32V, 3BSD and 4.0BSD successfully. You can see (rather tarse) details on my web site: http://zazie.tom-yam.or.jp/starunix/ Enjoy! Naoki Hamada nao(a)tom-yam.or.jp

18 years

[pups] hyperlinked 2.11bsd source code

by Walter F.J. Mueller

to all 2.11bsd users: when searching through the 2.11bsd code I wanted many times a hyperlinked and cross referenced rendition of the sources, much like doxygen or lxr does it. For kernel, lib and user code, for c and assembler. Since none of the existing tools seemed to do what I wanted I wrote a perl script generating such a html'ized version of the source code. The tool far from finished, but starts to be useful. The results from what I'd call an early alpha version are now available. Just start with either the tar source http://www-linux.gsi.de/~mueller/test/211bsd/usr/src/bin/tar.c.html or the kernel init routine http://www-linux.gsi.de/~mueller/test/211bsd/usr/src/sys/sys/init_main.c.ht… and click a little around. The style sheet is still the debug version, not all links end where they should. The cross reference sections aren't complete, but already useful. To see for example who is using setjmp see http://www-linux.gsi.de/~mueller/test/211bsd/usr/src/lib/libc/pdp/gen/setjm… or who is including nlist.h see http://www-linux.gsi.de/~mueller/test/211bsd/usr/include/nlist.h.html#xref:… The background color tells you in which territory you are in magenta boot and standalone code red kernel orange network code (running in supervisor) green libraries blue user level code Hope you enjoy it. With best regards, Walter -- Dr. Walter F.J. Müller Mail: W.F.J.Mueller(a)gsi.de GSI, Abteilung KP3 Phone: +49-6159-71-2766 D-64291 Darmstadt FAX: +49-6159-71-3762 URL: http://www-linux.gsi.de/~mueller/

18 years, 2 months

Re: [pups] Advice on which PDP-11 processor handbook to buy

by Walter F.J. Mueller

Hi Ross, you'll find on the Bitsavers Site (http://www.bitsavers.org) lots of documents, some handbooks under http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/handbooks/ and the "PDP-11 Processor Handbook - PDP11/04/34a/44/60/70" under http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/handbooks/PDP11_Handbook1979.pdf Under http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11 is quite a bit on various pdp-11 models, for example the "KB11-C Processor Manual (PDP-11/70)" http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/1170/EK-KB11C-TM-001_1170procMan.pdf in case you'd like to go into details :). With best regards, Walter -- Dr. Walter F.J. Müller Mail: W.F.J.Mueller(a)gsi.de GSI, Abteilung KP3 Phone: +49-6159-71-2766 D-64291 Darmstadt FAX: +49-6159-71-3762 URL: http://www-linux.gsi.de/~mueller/

18 years, 3 months

Re: [pups] Advice on which PDP-11 processor handbook to buy

by Kevin McQuiggin

Why not just download one from one of the many online archives? Most of them are in PDF format. On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:25:52 -0800 iking(a)killthewabbit.org wrote: > Wow, they're saying $40 for the 1978 book? I don't think I'll lend out my > copy.... > > FYI, I run v6 on a PDP-11/34a with RK05 drives. The kernel that boots up > from the install media tries to be pretty generic, and yes, you can make > changes to it to optimize it for various platforms. > > So the real question is: what do you want to do? If you just want to run a > PDP-11 in emulation, any of these books will do fine for you. The basic > PDP-11 instruction set is pretty constant across the series (with some > niggling exceptions, but nothing you're likely to deal with in an > emulator). > There were extended instruction sets for some models, but again with an > emulator you can play to your heart's content. There were some differences > in memory management, which may or may not be important depending on what > you want to run; again, v6 runs fine on an 11/34 without separate I/D > spaces, while v7 and 2.11BSD require it (as I recall). But once > again, simh > will let you rock on with any of these OS's. > > For understanding Lions (i.e. understanding the underlying hardware > better), > any of these will do. IMHO, YMMV, MOUSE. And welcome to the community! > Cheers -- Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: pups-bounces(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org] On > Behalf Of Ross Tucker > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:11 PM > To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org > Subject: [pups] Advice on which PDP-11 processor handbook to buy > > Hello all- > I'm a n00b on this list, so please forgive me my sins as I forgive those > who.... uh, never mind. Anyway, I am looking to get a "PDP-11 Processor > Handbook" from Amazon or eBay (so I can understand the Lions > book) and there are so many different editions and versions... Lions writes > about the 11/40, but supposedly, that's not too different from the /45 or > /70. My simh boot images for v6 are for the /45 (though supposedly I'm > supposed to be able to modify them to run on the others, right?). > > What I'm asking is your advice on which Handbook to buy. Here is a synopsis > on the editions and prices from amazon: > /04/34A/44/60/70 (1979) $10 > /04/34/45/55/60 (1978) $40 > /70 (1975) $16 > /04, 24, 34A, 70 (Jun 1981) $16 > /04/05/10/35/40/45 (1975) $45 > > What do you think? > > Thanks for your time, > Ross > _______________________________________________ > PUPS mailing list > PUPS(a)minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups > > _______________________________________________ > PUPS mailing list > PUPS(a)minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups >

18 years, 3 months

[pups] Advice on which PDP-11 processor handbook to buy

by Ross Tucker

Hello all- I'm a n00b on this list, so please forgive me my sins as I forgive those who.... uh, never mind. Anyway, I am looking to get a "PDP-11 Processor Handbook" from Amazon or eBay (so I can understand the Lions book) and there are so many different editions and versions... Lions writes about the 11/40, but supposedly, that's not too different from the /45 or /70. My simh boot images for v6 are for the /45 (though supposedly I'm supposed to be able to modify them to run on the others, right?). What I'm asking is your advice on which Handbook to buy. Here is a synopsis on the editions and prices from amazon: /04/34A/44/60/70 (1979) $10 /04/34/45/55/60 (1978) $40 /70 (1975) $16 /04, 24, 34A, 70 (Jun 1981) $16 /04/05/10/35/40/45 (1975) $45 What do you think? Thanks for your time, Ross

18 years, 3 months

RAND editor e19

by Gunnar Ritter

Hi, does anyone still have the source code for the RAND editor e19 <http://www.rand.org/pubs/notes/N2239-1/>? One can read on the net that it was once available as public domain from ftp.rand.org, but this machine seems not available anymore. There is an archive rand.tar.Z in the 2.10 (BSD) directory of CSRG CD 1, but this contains the older version e14. I think it would be good to also have the final version e19 in the Unix archive. Thanks Gunnar

18 years, 4 months

[pups] 2.11BSD Patch 445; FPSIM fixed; 211bsd runs on systems without FPP

by Walter F.J. Mueller

A note to all 2.11bsd users: Some time ago I looked into running 2.11bsd on systems without floating point unit. The release notes state that this is untested and unsupported, and indeed it didn't work. Robin Birch some time ago fixed part of the issues, see patch 434, but still the kernel paniced when the very first program was started. I managed to localize and fix the problem in sys/pdp/mch_fpsim.s. Steven Schultz right away issued 2.11BSD patch #445. All patches up to and including 445 are provided by Steven under ftp://sg-1.ims.ideas.gd-ais.com/pub/2.11BSD A patch level 445 system will now boot on simh for example on a set cpu 11/70 nofpp 4m configuration and work just fine, albeit a little slower. It should thus also work on a real 11/70 without FPP. I heard of some 11/70 with non-working FPP's, so this maybe good news for the owners. With best regards, Walter Mueller -- Dr. Walter F.J. Müller Mail: W.F.J.Mueller(a)gsi.de GSI, Abteilung KP3 Phone: +49-6159-71-2766 D-64291 Darmstadt FAX: +49-6159-71-3762 URL: http://www-linux.gsi.de/~mueller/

18 years, 4 months

running unix v7 on a pdp emulator

by Karim Hamidou

Happy new year. My name is karim hamidou and i'm french (you've surely noticed that my prose isn't bright) and i'd like to run unix v7 on the pdp emulator sim-2.3. Do you know how to run it ? I hope that my question isn't quite inappropriate. Thanks for your help. Regards. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

18 years, 4 months

V7 prompts

by Bill Cunningham

Hellwig, It's been a long time since I've been able to play with the simulator. Now I can't seem to get into V7. Can you point to me the page online because I don't have a .ps viewer that shows the commands again with the tapes and disks. tm(0,3) and so on. Bill

18 years, 4 months

SCCS source code available

by Gunnar Ritter

Hi, Sun has released the source code to the SCCS version control system: <http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=79598&tstart=0#79598> I have created a portable variant of it at <http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/devtools.html>. Gunnar

18 years, 4 months

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