Bill Cunningham:
I am copying all I can from the unix archive and will burn it to cd
because I know how precious they are. But what I was thinking was v5,6,7 for
example. Take them and add USB support. Linux would be a good example from
which to draw from. Because it's Posix. Much more could be adde to /dev.
=======
Has anyone ever made a UNIBUS or Qbus USB card?
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
[ Please reply to Bill if you can, I don't know if he's on the list ]
----- Forwarded message from Bill Cunningham <billcu1(a)verizon.net> -----
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:32:27 -0400
From: "Bill Cunningham" <billcu1(a)verizon.net>
Subject: Bob's emulator and ultrix
To: <wkt(a)tuhs.org>
I can't get the sim 2.3d to boot ultrix 3.1 or xenix or anyother boot tapes
in the uhs's archive. I have compiled the pdp11 emulator with gcc-3.4.6. I
am also interested in the OS Tim Berners-Lee used to write his first
browser. VMS on a VAX machine I have read. Is there anything like this in
the archive? A VAX emulator and VMS OS?
Bill
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>
> On 4/18/06, Warren Toomey <wkt(a)tuhs.org> wrote:
>> [ Please reply to Bill if you can, I don't know if he's on
>> the list ]
>>
>> ----- Forwarded message from Bill Cunningham <billcu1(a)verizon.net>
>> -----
>>
>> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:32:27 -0400
>> From: "Bill Cunningham" <billcu1(a)verizon.net>
>> Subject: Bob's emulator and ultrix
>> To: <wkt(a)tuhs.org>
>>
>> I can't get the sim 2.3d to boot ultrix 3.1 or xenix or anyother
>> boot tapes
>> in the uhs's archive. I have compiled the pdp11 emulator with
>> gcc-3.4.6. I
>> am also interested in the OS Tim Berners-Lee used to write his first
>> browser. VMS on a VAX machine I have read. Is there anything like
>> this in
>> the archive? A VAX emulator and VMS OS?
>
> Tim Berners-Lee developed what became the WWW, server and browser, on
> a NeXT computer running the NeXTstep OS. There is not a whole lot of
> public knowledge about the internals of the NeXT hardware, which makes
> it difficult to write an emulator for it.
>
> There is a slowly progressing effort to port NetBSD to NeXT hardware.
> Also, the last few releases of NeXTstep and OpenStep would run either
> on NeXT hardware or selected x86 hardware.
NEXTSTEP 3.3 & OpenStep run on NeXT's m68k, x86, and on HP/Apollo 700
series HPPA workstations and on several SUN SPARCstation models.
I own an HP735 that runs NS3.3 quite nicely.
> Somewhere there is a
> writeup covering the subject of running OpenStep on the VMware virtual
> machine.
This is a close but not quite the same thing article:
http://iamleeg.blogspot.com/2006/04/so-heres-full-system-networking-
is.html
>
> None of this is VAX, nor is it any other hardware covered by SimH.
>
> carl
> --
> carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
> clowenst(a)ucsd.edu
>
>
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Milo Velimirović <milov(a)uwlax.edu>
Unix Computer Network Administrator 608-785-6618 Office
ITS Network Services 608-386-2817 Cell
University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
La Crosse, Wisconsin 54601 USA 43 48 48 N 91 13 53 W
Hi Bill
you may try a current version of the simh emulator (simh 3.5.-2) which
is available from simh.trailing-edge.com. I had no problems with Ultrix
3.1, Unix V6/V7 etc.. I couldn't find xenix for pdpd-11 (did I miss that
in the archives?). There is Venix, but it's for the PRO-350/380, which
is not a "normal" PDP-11.
As for the OS Tim Berners-Lee used for his first Browser, I believe that
it was made on a Norsk Data Technostation. There is very few information
available on these machines, and I don't think there is an emulator for
them. There are only a few webpages mentioning it at all: see
http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~toresbe/nd/history.html for example (it has a
picture of the machine, note the funny terminal with the two LCD's in
addition to the monitor). I recently donated my Technostation to a
computer museum...
regards
--rp
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:32:27 -0400
> From: "Bill Cunningham" <billcu1(a)verizon.net>
> Subject: Bob's emulator and ultrix
> To: <wkt(a)tuhs.org>
>
> I can't get the sim 2.3d to boot ultrix 3.1 or xenix or anyother boot tapes
> in the uhs's archive. I have compiled the pdp11 emulator with gcc-3.4.6. I
> am also interested in the OS Tim Berners-Lee used to write his first
> browser. VMS on a VAX machine I have read. Is there anything like this in
> the archive? A VAX emulator and VMS OS?
>
> Bill
On Apr 18, 2006, at 9:00 PM, pups-request(a)minnie.tuhs.org wrote:
> ----- Forwarded message from Bill Cunningham <billcu1(a)verizon.net>
> -----
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:32:27 -0400
> From: "Bill Cunningham" <billcu1(a)verizon.net>
> Subject: Bob's emulator and ultrix
> To: <wkt(a)tuhs.org>
>
> I can't get the sim 2.3d to boot ultrix 3.1 or xenix or anyother
> boot tapes
> in the uhs's archive. I have compiled the pdp11 emulator with
> gcc-3.4.6. I
> am also interested in the OS Tim Berners-Lee used to write his first
> browser. VMS on a VAX machine I have read.
Doubtful. Everything I have read leads me to believe that Tim Berners-
Lee wrote the first web browser on using a NeXT cube running an early
version (2.x or earlier) of the NEXTSTEP operating system.
> Is there anything like this in
> the archive? A VAX emulator and VMS OS?
>
> Bill
> ----- End forwarded message -----
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Milo Velimirović
University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
La Crosse, Wisconsin 54601 USA
43 48 48 N 91 13 53 W
--
There's a reason Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson have been awarded
the U.S. National Medal of Technology (1998) and are fellows of the
Computer History Museum Online. Dave Cutler hasn't and isn't.
"You are not expected to understand this."
>
> By the way, are there releases of Xenix that run on PDP-hardware?
> I've only ever heard of PC (8086+)-based ones.
I believe there was a version of Xenix for the PDP-11 but Xenix is
based on SYSIII which I understand is not covered by the ancient Unix
license. Of course, if it is, I would love a copy of SYSIII. :-)
bill
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>> By the way, are there releases of Xenix that run on PDP-hardware?
>> I've only ever heard of PC (8086+)-based ones.
>
> There were. On 23 March 2002 Martin Crehan started a thread on this
> list, including a cite to this Slashdot posting: http://slashdot.org/
> comments.pl?sid=29920&cid=3213453
>
> I would link to the thread, but the search seems broken (http://
> minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/pups.cgi)
>
> Apart from the PDP-11 version mentioned there, I am also aware of the
> Lisa XENIX port (68K).
And also a8K version for the Tandy 16/6000 series. I still have
it, but don't use it anymore. It probably wouldn't even boot at
this point.
bill
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bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
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Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
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On 23-Mar-06, at 2:57 PM, Robin wrote:
> Ah,
>
> That’s a good suggestion. I’ll dig my way round the redhat config
> stuff and see if I can find one to switch off.
>
>
Look at "iptables".
--Toby
>
>
> Robin
>
>
>
> From: Toby Thain [mailto:toby@smartgames.ca]
> Sent: 23 March 2006 06:37
> To: robinb(a)ruffnready.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [pups] Supnik Emulator on Redhat Linux
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20-Mar-06, at 1:54 PM, Robin wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have successfully got the supnik emulator up and running on
> redhat but have hit a problem, which is probably configuration and
> serves to show how little I know about more recent unices.
>
>
>
> To allow computer to emulator comms I have installed a second card
> and enabled it under linux. It is enabled with a different address
> to the first one 192.168.1.10 and 192.168.1.11. The emulator can
> see both of the devices and I have attached device 1 (eth1) as xq0.
>
>
>
> I run up BSD2.11 on the emulator and it attaches to the ether
> device at start up.
>
>
>
> I can ftp from the emulator to the host and back again if I start
> ftp on the emulator.
>
>
>
> I can’t telnet to the host.
>
>
>
> I can’t telnet from the host to the emulator.
>
>
>
> I can’t ftp from the host to the emulator.
>
>
>
> I also can’t telnet in from a telnet session to the listening
> socket set up for a DZ11 (I could before I started trying to get
> the networking up).
>
>
>
> Ideas anyone?
>
>
>
>
>
> Sounds like firewall to me.
>
>
>
> --Toby
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Robin
>
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Hi,
I have successfully got the supnik emulator up and running on redhat but
have hit a problem, which is probably configuration and serves to show how
little I know about more recent unices.
To allow computer to emulator comms I have installed a second card and
enabled it under linux. It is enabled with a different address to the first
one 192.168.1.10 and 192.168.1.11. The emulator can see both of the devices
and I have attached device 1 (eth1) as xq0.
I run up BSD2.11 on the emulator and it attaches to the ether device at
start up.
I can ftp from the emulator to the host and back again if I start ftp on the
emulator.
I can't telnet to the host.
I can't telnet from the host to the emulator.
I can't ftp from the host to the emulator.
I also can't telnet in from a telnet session to the listening socket set up
for a DZ11 (I could before I started trying to get the networking up).
Ideas anyone?
Robin
