In some of the eary versions of unix if I'm correct you had to generate
the C compiler. Now how was that done? Was the compiler written in assembly
and the assembler generated crt0 crt1 and so on?
Bill
I accidentally stumbled across this:
http://www.excelsior-usa.com/krg/krg.html
Perhaps only marginally relevant to tuhs. It's a historic soviet system
modelled after Wirth's Lilith system. There's an emulator on the page
that works in windows. You can log in as "sys" with no password. There
are some familiar unix commands like "cd" and "ls", and others like "find"
which seem to differ from the traditional unix commands. The system is
written in modula II. There is some account information in /usr/etc and
some docs (I think /doc or /usr/doc?) but they are in russian.
I'd love to hear more about the system if anyone here knows more about
it.
Tim Newsham
http://www.lava.net/~newsham/
Hi,
perhaps some people on this list are interested to hear that I have
updated troff (from OpenSolaris code) to support:
- direct access to PostScript Type 1 and Type 42 (converted TrueType)
fonts
- small capitals, old-style numerals, and ligatures from PostScript
"expert" fonts
- pairwise kerning of characters and letter space tracking, including
a request to create kerning pairs for characters from different fonts
- hanging characters
- arbitrary letter sizes, including fractional points
- text input according to the locale, including UTF-8 input on most
platforms
- hyphenation of international languages
- international paper sizes such as A4
- DSC-conforming PostScript output
- PDF bookmarks
- higher device resolutions.
Source code is available at <http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/doctools.html>.
Gunnar
We're succesfully dumping the DG/UX tapes we have here. :)
we had a lot of problem due to "Sticky shed syndrome": the
tape stick to the head, causing the tape to lock while
reading data ...
cooking tapes will be a solution, but we followed another
idea: we used a special Teflon Lubricant Spray (here in
italy is "CRC TEFLON PENLUB SPRAY"
this is PERFECT for tapes - we had to rewind the tape
spraying the lubricant on the tape. this cause no
problems at all, and we red sticky tapes without
problems!
the tape images are here:
http://zaverio.net/eclipse/stuff/TAPE-IMAGES/
i don't know if there is (C) on those tapes - and really, i
don't care about it. I think preserving them is a MISSION for
us, and, so, here are the images.
happy hacking! :)
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well,
we discovered that we have MV/UX installed together with AOS/VS,
so we have a weird UNIX running ... under AOS/VS
:)))
so, our goal is, for now, to preserve the actual system, and
to make a copy of the tapes (now we can use "dd" to read/copy
them)
we're experimenting, stay tuned
we wrote some documentation in http://zaverio.net/eclipse/stuff,
and we will put online some help ASAP
p.s. any help/hint appreciated :)
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well,
another great day! we booted via tape! :)))
the problem was that the eclipse need to load the "MICROCODE"
before read anything else; and we had 2 problems:
1)
the tape head was so dirty that we can feel the dirt on
the head touching with a finger! after cleaning it, the
tape reader now perfectly!
2)
the microcode original tape is ... in horrible conditions! it
release magnetic particles touching it, and the tape reader
can't read it :(((
BUT
we found that a microcode copy can be loaded from the hard
disk (a 550 mb disk, very big and huge ! :)
so, we can now load the microcode from hard disk and, after
that, boot the DG/UX installation tape :D
AND WE'RE SO HAPPY, SOOO HAPPY, WE LOVE ALL ! :)
the main problem is how to do a backup of the whole disk,
to preserve the original AOS/VS installation, before trying
an installation of DG/UX.
Any hint? :)
p.s. some images here:
http://dyne.org/~asbesto/eclipse/eflags
many tnx to eflags for the help (he's the guy in the photos).
It's a sort of JESUS. He touch hardware imposing hands, then
the hardware magically works.
:)
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