> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:58:40 +0000
> From: Tim Bradshaw <tfb(a)tfeb.org>
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] HP Apollo Series 400 and DOMAIN/OS...
> To: Wilko Bulte <wb(a)freebie.xs4all.nl>
> Cc: tuhs(a)tuhs.org, asbesto <asbesto(a)freaknet.org>
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> On 21 Dec 2007, at 12:31, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> >
> > You could have DomainOS take a BSD or a SysV personality. Very
> > interesting.
>
> Very tangentially, Masscomp's RTU (real time Unix) could do this
> too. Other than that I think it is definitely something best
> forgotten, as it was pretty horrid (although my memory may be biassed
> by the awfulness of the HW)
Oh, I have fond memories of the Masscomp. That's where I learned how to
do sys admin (recovered from an rm -rf /) as well as networking (based
on 4.1c BSD as I recall, plus hacks). Masscomp had a really nicely redone
version of the socket programming docs that was most helpful at the time.
I was ..!uwvax!geowhiz!geophys!lm as I recall and all the geo* were
Masscomps.
Ah, the joys of 20 users on a 40MB disk. That's why I wrote something
that turned Honeyman's time optimal but space worst case pathalias
db into O(time optimal) as well as O(space best case). Only dynamic
programming alg I've ever done and written up.
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Hi!
We just recovered an HP APOLLO Series 400 in our computer museum,
and we got the installation tapes of DOMAIN/OS. It seem a very
particular flavour of BSD 5.3. We also made a dump of the
tapes, to preserve it. :D
Does someone know more about it? What about licensing? Is
it covered by some sort of hobbyist license?
Kisses to everybody! :)
asbesto/freaknet computer museum
http://museum.freaknet.org
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Hi. Warren and I seem to be on opposite ends of the world network wise,
such that I am unable to rsync to minnie to keep my copy of the TUHS
archive up to date.
Does anyone out there in TUHS land have a copy they're willing to make
available for syncing?
Thanks!
Arnold Robbins
Does anyone know (remember) which Unices had .../bin/[ be a link
to .../bin/test. I remember this being the case, but it is not so on
any recent Solaris. It is the case on my Mac, so in at least one BSD
derivative. I looked through a 7th edition tarball from the archive
and it's not the case there. So my guess is that it is a BSDism, and
it probably was the case in SunOS 4 and before, and I guess on at
least 4.2BSD & later.
Thanks
--tim
More info here:
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- Derrik
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On 17-Nov-07, at 4:15 PM, Bob Eager wrote:
> ** Reply to note from Toby Thain <toby(a)smartgames.ca> Sat, 17 Nov
> 2007 12:44:53 -0200
>
>> On 17-Nov-07, at 11:21 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
>>
>>> ** Reply to note from Toby Thain <toby(a)smartgames.ca> Sat, 17 Nov
>>> 2007 11:08:32 -0200
>>>
>>>> On 2-Nov-07, at 11:59 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
>>>>> ** Reply to note from Brantley Coile <brantley(a)coraid.com> Fri, 2
>>>>> Nov 2007 09:42:47 -0400
>>>>>> Wes,
>>>>>> Is this the book you are thinking of?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://research.microsoft.com/users/gbell/Computer_Engineering/
>>>>>> index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably was!
>>>>>
>>>>> I just bought a copy on eBay a couple of weeks ago, and have just
>>>>> read it
>>>>> cover to cover.
>>>>
>>>> There's more than one edition. ...
> I have the earlier "Computer Engineering" and the 2nd edition of
> "Art of
> Digital Design". I have now ordered the 1998 edition of "Computer
> Engineering". I look forward to all of the stuff that was too late
> for the
> first edition.
Bob,
Sorry! I think I was actually talking about a different Bell title. I
checked my past orders and found the following:
Author: Bell, C. Gordon; Newell, Allen
Title: Computer Structures: Readings and Examples
Author: Siewiorek, Daniel; Bell, C. Gordon; Newell, Allen,
Title: Computer Structures: Principles and Examples
Both of these contain many architectural case studies (each book
covers a different set). And both should be findable in this list:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?
an=bell&sts=t&tn=computer+structures
I also have Computer Engineering but it's a different book! Sorry
again about the confusion.
--Toby
>
>
> Bob
** Reply to note from Brantley Coile <brantley(a)coraid.com> Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:42:47 -0400
> Wes,
> Is this the book you are thinking of?
>
> http://research.microsoft.com/users/gbell/Computer_Engineering/index.html
Probably was!
I just bought a copy on eBay a couple of weeks ago, and have just read it
cover to cover. A bit dry at the start, but fascinating...I starting using
PDP11s back in 1972. (an 11/20)
And used what I think was the first v6 UNIX system in England...
Bob
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