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by Norman Wilson

Tim Newsham: Does anyone know if emulators are capable of running 8th ed unix or later? What about emulation of the bitblit? ======== Who knows what blitjerq lurks in the hearts of men? Seriously, an emulator with appropriate CPU settings should be able to run latter-day Research UNIX without much trouble. 8/e would need a VAX-11/780 or 750; 10/e would work on a VAX 8550 or 8700 (only one CPU, though) or a MicroVAX II or III. I forget just when the MicroVAX work was first done (by Ted Kowalski, who in an earlier day wrote fsck), so I'm not sure at what point in the 9/e era it appeared; but since 8/e was the last really organized tape we made, it doesn't really matter. As others have pointed out, the blit/jerq code didn't run on the VAX, but in a separate terminal. For that you'd need an emulator for the MC68000 or the WE32100. By the time the 8/e tape was cut, the 68K-based Blits had pretty much been retired; I'm not sure that code would be as interesting to resurrect as that for the WE32100-based Teletype 5620 DMD. Of course you'd also have to emulate all the I/O devices, including the decidedly-non-PS/2 keyboard and mouse. I don't remember for sure any more (maybe Dennis does), but the jerq code may have been on a separate tape because the special C compiler for that CPU chip wasn't easily redistributed--it came from the commercial side of AT&T, not the research part. Norman Wilson Toronto ON _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

15 years, 2 months

late research unix question

by Tim Newsham

Does anyone know if emulators are capable of running 8th ed unix or later? What about emulation of the bitblit? Do the few lucky people who have a copy of these run them in emulation? Tim Newsham | www.thenewsh.com/~newsham | thenewsh.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

15 years, 2 months

secret society of UNIX gurus

by Derrik Walker v2.0

There is a new Yahoo group for UNIX gurus. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/unix_guru/ It even has a test that has to be passed to be a member to make sure your a real UNIX geek. _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

15 years, 2 months

history of termios?

by Aaron J. Grier

before I do some code spelunking, does anyone here know the history of termios? I've been doing some serial programming recently and wondering how things got to the way they are... why is VTIME an inter-character timer instead of a timer for an entire VMIN block, for instance? -- Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier(a)poofygoof.com _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

15 years, 3 months

UNIX/32v & speak....

by Jason Stevens

I was going to upload the various man pages of 32/V so I'd have a 'nice' collection of them, and to help with my eventual conversion of the help text into RTF for a windows helpfile when I was reading through the number command... http://gunkies.org/wiki/32v_1m_number Number copies the standard input to the standard output, changing each > decimal number to a fully spelled out version. Punctuation is added to make > the output sound well when played through speak(1). So it seems that VAX's could do audio at some point? Does anyone know how it worked? Naturally the speak command seems to be missing, but it does seem very interesting...! I wonder if this was the start of the UNIX/IVR relationship....? Thanks! Jason _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

15 years, 3 months

Bell and EUUG tapes - who could read?

by Andy Cowley

Dear All, I have a number of old Unix™ ½ inch reel to reel tapes. I would dearly love to transfer the contents, if readable, to a more modern medium. If anyone has the facility to do this please contact me. I'm located in the United Kingdom. They are 800 or 1600 BPI, 9 track and, I suspect, NRZI encoded. They should be compatible with DEC reel-to-reel drives, probably most others. They contain various PDP/LSI-11 versions of AT&T Bell Research Laboratories UNIX™ Edition 6 and 7. The Bell tapes (1, 2 and 3) are for PDP-11/45 with other drivers. The EUUG (European Unix Users Group) tape has kernels for various LSI-11 models including LSI-11/23. It also contains a large number of contributed utilities. There is more info at http://www.andycowley.com/Unix/tapes.html best Andy Cowley This email was independently scanned for viruses by McAfee anti-virus software and none were found _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

15 years, 3 months

Mailing list archives

by Jose R. Valverde

Only curious, FWIW, the mailing list archives have not been updated since June 09. Is this a bug or a feature? j -- EMBnet/CNB Scientific Computing Service Solving all your computer needs for Scientific Research. http://bioportal.cnb.csic.es http://www.es.embnet.org _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

15 years, 4 months

TROPPO CAFFE POCO CERVELLO 9 - MEETING 2,3,4 OCTOBER 2009

by asbesto

ZCZC SPREAD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! :) The Freaknet and Dyne.org hackers are delighted to invite you to a Poetry Hacklab on-site and on-line event: TROPPO CAFFE' POCO CERVELLO 9 ============================= 2nd, 3rd, 4th (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) October 2009, Palazzolo Acreide, at the misterious center "Lisbeth Salander" in the Palazzolo Acreide countryside http://dyne.org/tcpc Italian version: http://poetry.freaknet.org/static/tcpc9 What is it? =========== It's Poetry! It's Art, IT'S DELIRIUM! IT'S ALL AND NOTHING, YIN AND YANG, GOPHER and ARCHIE! Now at the 9th edition, the "Troppo Caffe' Poco Cervello" (too much coffee, too less brain) it's a cultural and scientific happening that lasts three days where people from all the World (and beyond) are meeting in Palazzolo Acreide and via the Internet to share experiences, research, culture, poetry, art and science with the intention to create new and beautiful things to donate to the community. This edition will have people from all Sicily and also foreign guests committed in advanced programming sessions, dissertations for beginners, scientific experiments, sumptuous lunches, enormous dinners and sleepless nights dedicated to the passion for computer science. Poems will be read, poems will be written, all and nothing will be discussed, weeds will be weeded, new weeds will be planted, debates will be happen, decisions will be taken, all and nothing will be done! Everyone can join, the important thing is to leave the brain at home and bring a lot of coffee! What will be done ================= We will do a lot of BEAUTIFUL and USELESS things: Radio link ---------- It's the first step to the world domination. The installation and the configuration of an amateur radio link WI-FI which will give raise to discussion about wireless technology, its use and some tricks (Netsukuku, OLSR, Fonera, hardware modifications, dd-wrt etc) by Asbesto IW9HGS and other radioamateurs possibly there. The distance that will be covered is 6.9Km :). MuSE ---- A group of programmers from the Freaknet and Poetry Hacklab will establish a on-line connection with dyne.org developers and follow this "code sprint" plan: http://lab.dyne.org/MuSE/SprintOct09 We want to develop a new version of MuSE streamer, a free application to make your own on-line radio and your voice heard all around the world, broadcasting audio files and live microphone all mixed in real time. (http://muse.dyne.org) Join us writing code or help translate the manual! Other activities ---------------- Artistic performances, strolls in the surroundings or anything you want could happen spontaneously; everything will be managed by the same people who could throw off activities, keeping in mind we should not disrupt the ANY the focus on the main activities described above. Everyone is invited! Logistics ========= How nice is to be seated on chairs! Food ---- Breakfast, lunch and dinner are completely self-managed so you're invited to bring food and drinks and share them with everyone! Lodging ------- If anyone needs to sleep... there are two beds which we will assign to the sleep of the weaks, you can sleep in a tent, so if you want to do so bring your own TENT! Hopefully another space will be available. You will need to adapt yourself to it because the objective is not to sleep! :) (obviously special neeeds of resting/lodging will be satified, so don't worry, we won't let you sleep on straw... maybe!) Donations --------- If you want to contribute money, you are very welcome to do so, via Paypal or even via bank wire-transfer. We have a clear plan for it: we hope we will gather some funds spreading this event and collect them to be invested in more software development on MuSE. This software is very important! a lot of people can use it completely for free to do radio, it is the way we can make free speech happen. But we have no money to continue development, which was stopped for more than 3 years now, so please donate some money! and you'll help us all provide concrete results and useful tools to all our communities. The plan is: we will develop a lot during TCPC9, package the application for existing distributions and update it to be stable and to use latest libraries. After the TCPC9 we will see what we've reached and what is still left to do, then we will put out tasks and money offers out of the money collected from your donations, so that more developers can get involved and help us finish the work. This is the first time we try to do this so pleaase don't leave us alone! spare some money NOW and you'll get QUALITY FREE SOFTWARE soon! Link for donations: http://poetry.freaknet.org/index.php/Troppocaffepococervello9#Donazioni or directly from http://dyne.org/tcpc !!! JOIN us ON-SITE =============== We will meet on Friday 2nd October 2009 in Palazzolo Acreide, at Poetry Hackab or directly to the tcpc location! To get there follow this map: http://poetry.freaknet.org/index.php/File:Screenshot1.png Follow SS2287 to Palazzolo Acreide, 2km before the start of the village there is a crossroad to Solarino/Ferla on the right handside, so turn right and follow SS124. Keep going until you see a small red house on your right, then take immediately the small street next to the house on the right and keep going until you get to the place. You will hear tearing noises and inhuman shouts; you will see half-naked cavemen fighting against hardawre and software around the fire of the Alchemic Furnace: you got there! To reach Palazzolo Acreide from Catania with bus: http://www.aziendasicilianatrasporti.it/ Once you are in Palazzolo and you don't know how to reach us, just call someone: MAYBE we will fetch you. Who knows! JOIN us ON-LINE =============== For more information contact us or call +39 931-1-845-849 Internet Relay Chat:irc.dyne.org (SSL only, port 9999) channel #dyne and #TCPC REMEMBER, BRING THE COFFEE, AND LEAVE THE BRAIN AT HOME! NNNN _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

15 years, 4 months

flashterm

by Jason Stevens

I found this site the other day, and I thought it may be of interest to everyone.. http://www.flashterm.com/ It's a telnet client that runs in the flash runtime. I know with the proliferation of flash (and the odd removal of it in Vista machines) this could be a neat way to get people to 'try out' ancient unix... coupled with SIMH it looks like something interesting, esp as it seems all the java clients are not free.. well at least the ones I've found. Anyways, if anyone is interested to see it in action on a simulated VAX I've set one up here: http://75.127.119.16/telnet/ _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

15 years, 5 months

default license, old CSRG RCS history? and BSD share/mk/*mk files?

by Jeremy C. Reed

For 4.4BSD files, if no copyright and license is listed for specific files, does the standard UCB license apply? Is there any file or statement that says the license covers all files which don't have a specific license in 4.4BSD-Lite ? Any RCS commit history for old CSRG code? I am looking for the authors/history/copyrights for BSD share/mk/files. I see that 4.4BSD-Alpha has: r--r--r-- 3/7 792 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.doc.mk r--r--r-- 3/7 3761 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk r--r--r-- 3/7 1574 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.man.mk r--r--r-- 3/7 4140 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk r--r--r-- 3/7 1244 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk r--r--r-- 3/7 1387 Aug 26 05:00 1992 usr/share/mk/sys.mk but missing the bsd.README I couldn't find these in the other old 4 and 3BSDs (via the tuhs archive). The share/mk/bsd.README from NetBSD import in 1993 has: # @(#)bsd.README 5.1 (Berkeley) 5/11/90 And sys.mk has: # @(#)sys.mk 5.11 (Berkeley) 3/13/91 And bsd.doc.mk: # @(#)bsd.doc.mk 5.3 (Berkeley) 1/2/91 _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS(a)minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

15 years, 5 months

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