10 Feb
2025
10 Feb
'25
9 p.m.
... it is possible to kill a person if you know his true name.
I'm trying to find the origin of that phrase (which I've likely mangled);
V5 or thereabouts?
-- Dave
10 Feb
10 Feb
9:09 p.m.
On Feb 10, 2025, at 16:00, Dave Horsfall
<dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
... it is possible to kill a person if you know his true name.
I'm trying to find the origin of that phrase (which I've likely mangled);
V5 or thereabouts?
—Dave
Here’s a stackexchange page about it.
https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/1724/where-did-the-idea-of-a…
9:56 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 4:10 PM Lawrence Stewart <stewart(a)serissa.com> wrote:
Meta note: I think Dave meant a quote in a comment in Unix somewhere,
not the origin of the True Name myth. :-)
- Dan C.
On Feb 10,
2025, at 16:00, Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
... it is possible to kill a person if you know his true name.
I'm trying to find the origin of that phrase (which I've likely mangled);
V5 or thereabouts?
Here’s a stackexchange page about it.
https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/1724/where-did-the-idea-of-a…
11:15 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 1:12 AM Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2025, Dan Cross wrote:
On a faux-cultural note, Arthur C Clark wrote the "Nine Billion Names of
God" in the 50s. When you got all 9 billion names, EVERYBODY got killed.
9 billion would have been more than adequate to hit all possible process
IDs. -- jpl
Meta note: I think Dave meant a quote in a
comment in Unix somewhere,
not the origin of the True Name myth. :-)
And you win the lollipop :-) 'Twas the "ps(1)" command...
-- Dave
7:33 p.m.
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025, John P. Linderman wrote:
On a faux-cultural note, Arthur C Clark wrote the
"Nine Billion Names of
God" in the 50s. When you got all 9 billion names, EVERYBODY got killed.
9 billion would have been more than adequate to hit all possible process
IDs. -- jpl
And a great story too; read it :-)
-- Dave, who hopes the stars won't go out...
9:21 p.m.
segaloco via TUHS wrote in
<lqYtGXtiGHgXKV0XnZd6X4RbOffJYepucEWpdp1GFGv0lbIq9RpuLLOVWj5aGyVHzTr_b6Y\
jbhd7U3YVmxcWwSEMWZAGxEqdMZgFiVr7qh0=(a)protonmail.com>:
|On Monday, February 10th, 2025 at 2:14 PM, Erik E. Fair <fair-tuhs@netbs\
|d.org> wrote:
|> Shriekback - "Gunning for the Buddha"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL\
|> G92w1SfqI
|>
|> https://www.dailybuddhism.com/archives/670
|>
|> Erik
|
|Looks to be ps(I) introduced in V4: https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.p\
|l?file=V4/man/man1/ps.1
|
|The quote is describing the fields printed, among them:
|
|"The process unique number (as in certain cults it is possible to kill \
|a process if you know its true name)."
Dave Horsfall wrote in
<f535c8ef-8f68-2d7f-5bc7-a3ddb08739d5(a)horsfall.org>:
|On Tue, 11 Feb 2025, John P. Linderman wrote:
|
|> On a faux-cultural note, Arthur C Clark wrote the "Nine Billion Names of
|> God" in the 50s. When you got all 9 billion names, EVERYBODY got killed.
|> 9 billion would have been more than adequate to hit all possible process
|> IDs. -- jpl
|
|And a great story too; read it :-)
|
|-- Dave, who hopes the stars won't go out...
Now, then, with this, i have to.
I cannot give the real source of the quote (someone may know
it!!), but a buddhistic teacher told his scholars ~"When they
slice you in pieces, suffer in silence." This (surely,
definitely) referred to Lingchi, and the honest and innocent soul
surely adhered to the teacher's advice.
--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
|
|In Fall and Winter, feel "The Dropbear Bard"s pint(er).
|
|The banded bear
|without a care,
|Banged on himself for e'er and e'er
|
|Farewell, dear collar bear
9:45 p.m.
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in
<20250211212132.avrinvHj(a)steffen%sdaoden.eu>:
|segaloco via TUHS wrote in
| <lqYtGXtiGHgXKV0XnZd6X4RbOffJYepucEWpdp1GFGv0lbIq9RpuLLOVWj5aGyVHzTr_b6Y\
| jbhd7U3YVmxcWwSEMWZAGxEqdMZgFiVr7qh0=(a)protonmail.com>:
||On Monday, February 10th, 2025 at 2:14 PM, Erik E. Fair <fair-tuhs@netbs\
||d.org> wrote:
||> Shriekback - "Gunning for the Buddha"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL\
||> \
||> G92w1SfqI
||>
||> https://www.dailybuddhism.com/archives/670
...
||-- Dave, who hopes the stars won't go out...
...
|Now, then, with this, i have to.
|I cannot give the real source of the quote (someone may know
|it!!), but a buddhistic teacher told his scholars ~"When they
|slice you in pieces, suffer in silence." This (surely,
|definitely) referred to Lingchi, and the honest and innocent soul
|surely adhered to the teacher's advice.
Ie .. it is likely that master Linji quoted by the linked page
from Erik Fair is the namesake for Lingchi (from my superficial
western point of understanding), and that very likely "milks the
transcendency out of every being", and, likely, can kill Buddha.
(Some lucky get around the actual thing, like the German Jesuit
who reformed the Chinese calendar [1], he then died by natural
causes one year thereafter, may his soul rest in heavenly peace.
Now that also was in 1666, which is three times six, hm-hm-hm,
but only to mention it.)
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Adam_Schall_von_Bell
--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
|
|In Fall and Winter, feel "The Dropbear Bard"s pint(er).
|
|The banded bear
|without a care,
|Banged on himself for e'er and e'er
|
|Farewell, dear collar bear
10 Feb
10 Feb
10:14 p.m.
Shriekback - "Gunning for the Buddha"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLG92w1SfqI
https://www.dailybuddhism.com/archives/670
Erik
10:22 p.m.
On Monday, February 10th, 2025 at 2:14 PM, Erik E. Fair <fair-tuhs(a)netbsd.org>
wrote:
Shriekback - "Gunning for the Buddha"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLG92w1SfqI
https://www.dailybuddhism.com/archives/670
Erik
Looks to be ps(I) introduced in V4:
https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V4/man/man1/ps.1
The quote is describing the fields printed, among them:
"The process unique number (as in certain cults it is possible to kill a process if
you know its true name)."
- Matt G.
10:27 p.m.
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025, Dave Horsfall wrote:
... it is possible to kill a person if you know his
true name.
I'm trying to find the origin of that phrase (which I've likely mangled);
V5 or thereabouts?
v5 ps manual (v5man.pdf page 94)
The process unique number (as in certain cults it is possible to kill a
process if you know its true name).
v7 usr/man/man1/ps.1
.TP
PID
The process ID of the process; as in certain cults it is possible to kill a process
if you know its true name.
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