24 Oct
2018
24 Oct
'18
8:59 a.m.
Hi,
Was wanting to put together a fully functional (meaning able to load the
whole distro and recompile itself) and "reliable" System III machine made
of real, albeit not terribly sexy parts. I have (4) working rl02 drives
and an 11/34, so I feel like there's a chance it could work. I'll have to
build it on the emulator, of course, then vtserver it over to the real hw
in chunks.
But the blocker is that System III only supports rl01, not rl02, which
kills the 'full distro' prospect.
Would anyone know if it's trivial to modify the source for the rl01 driver
to just add double the blocks, thereby supporting rl02? Or am I wildly
underestimating the task at hand? Has this been done before? Tips?
thx
jake
24 Oct
24 Oct
9:21 a.m.
Should be pretty easy particularly since the rl0x is supported in the BSD environment
That said why mess with PWB 3.0 on an 11? BSD 2.9 will be more interesting. Also if you
have a 40 class system like the 34 of 34A see if you can find an Able Enable board. The
memory will make a huge difference.
Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.
On Oct 23, 2018, at 10:59 PM, Jacob Ritorto
<jacob.ritorto(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Was wanting to put together a fully functional (meaning able to load the whole distro
and recompile itself) and "reliable" System III machine made of real, albeit not
terribly sexy parts. I have (4) working rl02 drives and an 11/34, so I feel like
there's a chance it could work. I'll have to build it on the emulator, of
course, then vtserver it over to the real hw in chunks.
But the blocker is that System III only supports rl01, not rl02, which kills the
'full distro' prospect.
Would anyone know if it's trivial to modify the source for the rl01 driver to just
add double the blocks, thereby supporting rl02? Or am I wildly underestimating the task
at hand? Has this been done before? Tips?
thx
jake
25 Oct
25 Oct
7:22 a.m.
I did run 2.9bsd on this machine and I like it better, but the distro
struggles to fit on (4) rl02s and then can't recompile itself due to lack
of space.
The System III idea is kind of homage to my Solaris years and for bragging
rights to my teenage friends who know nothing but Linux (and I kinda feel
(as a stretch) like Linux is in the System III line). That said, I'd was
originally going for System V, but when I recompiled it under the emulator,
I found out that it requires separate I&D, so the 11/34 is out; System III
is next closest. Eventually I'll be doing this same exercise on mt split
11/45 and then have some serious bragging rights :)
I sure hope there's a pdp11 sdcard / usb disk solution someday like they
did for the Commodore 64 - I could even pay a little for it. And for some
clever kernel optimizing hack that'll let me run a tcp/ip stack on my poor
little-address-space 11/45 so I can telnet to it with 2.11bsd.
I'm totally in the market for an Able Enable board too! Out of curiosity,
is it totally out of the question to just find the prints and do a
production run? I mean if we got 100 people in at a hundred each, wouldn't
that cover it? There's enough interest in vintage now that that headcount
could realistically happen.
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:21 PM Clem cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
Should be pretty easy particularly since the rl0x is
supported in the BSD
environment
That said why mess with PWB 3.0 on an 11? BSD 2.9 will be more
interesting. Also if you have a 40 class system like the 34 of 34A see if
you can find an Able Enable board. The memory will make a huge difference.
Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not
quite.
On Oct 23, 2018, at 10:59 PM, Jacob Ritorto
<jacob.ritorto(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
Was wanting to put together a fully functional (meaning able to load
the whole
distro and recompile itself) and "reliable" System III machine
made of real, albeit not terribly sexy parts. I have (4) working rl02
drives and an 11/34, so I feel like there's a chance it could work. I'll
have to build it on the emulator, of course, then vtserver it over to the
real hw in chunks.
But the blocker is that System III only supports rl01, not rl02, which
kills the
'full distro' prospect.
Would anyone know if it's trivial to modify the source for the rl01
driver to
just add double the blocks, thereby supporting rl02? Or am I
wildly underestimating the task at hand? Has this been done before? Tips?
thx
jake
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