7 Jan
2025
7 Jan
'25
1:16 a.m.
I mentioned a few weeks ago that I was writing this invited paper for an
upcoming 50-year anniversary of the first issue of IEEE Transactions on
Software Engineering.
The paper has now been accepted for publication and here's a preprint
version of it:
https://www.mrochkind.com/mrochkind/docs/SCCSretro2.pdf
Marc
7 Jan
7 Jan
1:49 a.m.
Nice.
For what it is worth, your SCCS supports merging just fine. We used
SCCS to do merges without copying by using your includes. If SCCS had
had a -m for merge, it would have included the branch but then all the
other deltas going up to the GCA. Much like the tip means the tip
but all the other deltas going back to 1.1.
SCCS was a big contribution to the state of the art, I am forever
grateful that you did it. To this day I don't think people know
what you did. When we were a business, every time some SCM came out,
Rick or I would ask "is there a weave" like you had done, if not,
we didn't care. That weave format that you did 50 years ago is
awesome.
On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 06:16:25PM -0700, Marc Rochkind wrote:
I mentioned a few weeks ago that I was writing this
invited paper for an
upcoming 50-year anniversary of the first issue of IEEE Transactions on
Software Engineering.
The paper has now been accepted for publication and here's a preprint
version of it:
https://www.mrochkind.com/mrochkind/docs/SCCSretro2.pdf
Marc
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1:55 a.m.
Thanks for the kind words, Larry.
Marc
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 6:49 PM Larry McVoy <lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
Nice.
For what it is worth, your SCCS supports merging just fine. We used
SCCS to do merges without copying by using your includes. If SCCS had
had a -m for merge, it would have included the branch but then all the
other deltas going up to the GCA. Much like the tip means the tip
but all the other deltas going back to 1.1.
SCCS was a big contribution to the state of the art, I am forever
grateful that you did it. To this day I don't think people know
what you did. When we were a business, every time some SCM came out,
Rick or I would ask "is there a weave" like you had done, if not,
we didn't care. That weave format that you did 50 years ago is
awesome.
On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 06:16:25PM -0700, Marc Rochkind wrote:
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I mentioned a few weeks ago that I was writing
this invited paper for an
upcoming 50-year anniversary of the first issue of IEEE Transactions on
Software Engineering.
The paper has now been accepted for publication and here's a preprint
version of it:
https://www.mrochkind.com/mrochkind/docs/SCCSretro2.pdf
Marc
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Larry McVoy Retired to fishing
http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat
2:50 a.m.
I never knew the technical details of what you had done, but I enjoyed
using SCCS in the mid-80's when I started using UNIX, and it helped me
develop an understanding of source code management disciplines.
Sometimes I had to use RCS when SCCS wasn't available, later I used
everything else, as we all did, but I always liked the way SCCS worked
on those first SunOS and Ultrix systems where I encountered it,
especially when it was well understood by the make utility. Thank you
for this great contribution, and I enjoyed reading your paper just now.
On 01/06/2025 06:49 PM, Larry McVoy wrote:
Nice.
For what it is worth, your SCCS supports merging just fine. We used
SCCS to do merges without copying by using your includes. If SCCS had
had a -m for merge, it would have included the branch but then all the
other deltas going up to the GCA. Much like the tip means the tip
but all the other deltas going back to 1.1.
SCCS was a big contribution to the state of the art, I am forever
grateful that you did it. To this day I don't think people know
what you did. When we were a business, every time some SCM came out,
Rick or I would ask "is there a weave" like you had done, if not,
we didn't care. That weave format that you did 50 years ago is
awesome.
On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 06:16:25PM -0700, Marc Rochkind wrote:
> I mentioned a few weeks ago that I was writing this invited paper for an
> upcoming 50-year anniversary of the first issue of IEEE Transactions on
> Software Engineering.
>
> The paper has now been accepted for publication and here's a preprint
> version of it:
>
> https://www.mrochkind.com/mrochkind/docs/SCCSretro2.pdf
>
> Marc
9:01 a.m.
Marc Rochkind <mrochkind(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I mentioned a few weeks ago that I was writing this
invited paper for an
upcoming 50-year anniversary of the first issue of IEEE Transactions on
Software Engineering.
The paper has now been accepted for publication and here's a preprint
version of it:
https://www.mrochkind.com/mrochkind/docs/SCCSretro2.pdf
Marc
This is a nice paper. Marc, I think you're a little too hard on your
24-year old self. To have created the weave at the age of 24 indicates
(to me) that you were certainly a well above average programmer /
computer scientist. Many of the other things you criticize could be
attributed to simply not knowing better (= not having yet had enough
experience).
My two cents, anyway. Again, a nice paper.
Arnold
8 Jan
8 Jan
1:40 a.m.
Very nicely written history, as well as explanation of how systems
differed. I appreciated reading this, but especially enjoyed one of the
closing paragraphs on the future:
How am I supposed to know? AI is already doing some coding. Maybe in ten or
twenty years it will do all of it. Will AI need version control? If it
does, will it be the latest version of Git, or maybe something invented by
AI?
Thanks Marc
Rik
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 6:16 PM Marc Rochkind <mrochkind(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I mentioned a few weeks ago that I was writing this
invited paper for an
upcoming 50-year anniversary of the first issue of IEEE Transactions on
Software Engineering.
The paper has now been accepted for publication and here's a preprint
version of it:
https://www.mrochkind.com/mrochkind/docs/SCCSretro2.pdf
Marc
3:01 a.m.
Glad you liked that paragraph, Rik. I had that section head in my outline
and when I got there I had no idea what to type. Got away with it! ;-)
Marc
On Tue, Jan 7, 2025, 6:40 PM Rik Farrow <rik(a)rikfarrow.com> wrote:
Very nicely written history, as well as explanation of
how systems
differed. I appreciated reading this, but especially enjoyed one of the
closing paragraphs on the future:
How am I supposed to know? AI is already doing some coding. Maybe in ten
or twenty years it will do all of it. Will AI need version control? If it
does, will it be the latest version of Git, or maybe something invented by
AI?
Thanks Marc
Rik
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 6:16 PM Marc Rochkind <mrochkind(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I mentioned a few weeks ago that I was writing
this invited paper for an
upcoming 50-year anniversary of the first issue of IEEE Transactions on
Software Engineering.
The paper has now been accepted for publication and here's a preprint
version of it:
https://www.mrochkind.com/mrochkind/docs/SCCSretro2.pdf
Marc
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