24 Mar
2009
24 Mar
'09
3:14 p.m.
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:53:07 -0400
From: Jason Stevens <neozeed(a)gmail.com>
To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Uwisc4.3 question...
I went ahead and downloaded this [
http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/4BSD/Distributions/thirdparty/UWisc4.3/ ],
made up some tape images and installed it on SIMH... And what I found
is that as far as I can tell there is *NO* information about this
thing..
All I can find is that it includes the vfs layer from SunOS and it's
NFS... It looks like beta software from the root user being "The Not
Ready for Prime Time Super User".
Does the code actually say "Sun Microsystems"? If not, then this might have
been the VFS and NFS stuff that got folded back into BSD Reno.
I think there were other schools that ran this. At the same time
as this entry (1989) I was a sysadmin in the computing center
of Emory University and we were running Mt. Xinu's mixture of
4.3 BSD with NFS from Sun, and then later their commercial Unix
on Vax 11/780s, and starting to move to Sparcs running SunOS 4.0.
The comp. center preferred having a vendor with whom there could be
a support contract - IIRC then otherwise we probably would have
been running this too.
Ah, those were the days, when men were real men, and computers
were vaxen. :-)
FWIW here is the UUCP entry I found...
------
#N eedsp
#S Vax 11/780; 4.3+NFS Wisconsin Unix
#O School of Electrical Engineering
#C Deborah J. Jackson
#E gt-eedsp!deb
#T +1 404 894 3058
#P School of EE, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA, 30332
#L 84 23 43 W / 33 46 30 N
#W eedsp!deb (Deb Jackson); Wed Jul 19 11:35:13 EDT 1989
------
I knew Deb Jackson and worked with her a little when we were both at GT
(I was in Information and Computer Science, not EE) and then a lot when
I suggested that the start-up company I was at hire her (which they
did). I've not seen her in around 18 years, nor do I know where she is
now, although presumably she's still in Atlanta somewhere.
Arnold
24 Mar
24 Mar
5 p.m.
New subject: Uwisc4.3 question...
Yeah there is certainly sun code... for example here's the copyright
bit in a file:
/*
* xdr.c, Generic XDR routines implementation.
*
* Copyright (C) 1984, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
*
* These are the "generic" xdr routines used to serialize and de-serialize
* most common data items. See xdr.h for more info on the interface to
* xdr.
*/
% egrep -ril 'sun microsystems' *
h/des.h
h/dnlc.h
nfs/nfs_server.c
nfs/nfs_vfsops.c
nfs/nfs_vnodeops.c
rpc/auth.h
rpc/authunix_prot.c
rpc/auth_kern.c
rpc/auth_none.c
rpc/auth_unix.c
rpc/auth_unix.h
rpc/clnt.h
rpc/clnt_kudp.c
rpc/clnt_perror.c
rpc/clnt_raw.c
rpc/clnt_simple.c
rpc/clnt_tcp.c
rpc/clnt_udp.c
rpc/kudp_fastsend.c
rpc/pmap_clnt.c
rpc/pmap_clnt.h
rpc/pmap_getmaps.c
rpc/pmap_getport.c
rpc/pmap_prot.c
rpc/pmap_prot.h
rpc/pmap_rmt.c
rpc/rpc.h
rpc/rpc_msg.h
rpc/rpc_prot.c
rpc/subr_kudp.c
rpc/svc.c
rpc/svc.h
rpc/svc_auth.c
rpc/svc_auth.h
rpc/svc_auth_unix.c
rpc/svc_kudp.c
rpc/svc_raw.c
rpc/svc_simple.c
rpc/svc_tcp.c
rpc/svc_udp.c
rpc/xdr.c
rpc/xdr.h
rpc/xdr_array.c
rpc/xdr_float.c
rpc/xdr_mbuf.c
rpc/xdr_mem.c
rpc/xdr_rec.c
rpc/xdr_reference.c
rpc/xdr_stdio.c
sys/heap_kmem.c
sys/vfs_dnlc.c
ufs/quota.c
ufs/quota_syscalls.c
ufs/quota_ufs.c
ufs/ufs_dir.c
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Aharon Robbins <arnold(a)skeeve.com> wrote:
One of the
uni's I went to made that transition in the mid 90's.. At
that time I didn't realize how many 'upgrades' they had made to Ultrix
to make it... usable. Although I don't think I miss archie/veronica
but the simplicity of pine/lynx is kind of there.. oh sure they still
run on 'modern' things but it isn't the same really.
Date: Sun, 22
Mar 2009 00:53:07 -0400
From: Jason Stevens <neozeed(a)gmail.com>
To: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Uwisc4.3 question...
I went ahead and downloaded this [
http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/4BSD/Distributions/thirdparty/UWisc4.3/ ],
made up some tape images and installed it on SIMH... And what I found
is that as far as I can tell there is *NO* information about this
thing..
All I can find is that it includes the vfs layer from SunOS and it's
NFS... It looks like beta software from the root user being "The Not
Ready for Prime Time Super User".
Does the code actually say "Sun Microsystems"? If not, then this might have
been the VFS and NFS stuff that got folded back into BSD Reno.
I think there were other schools that ran this. At the same time
as this entry (1989) I was a sysadmin in the computing center
of Emory University and we were running Mt. Xinu's mixture of
4.3 BSD with NFS from Sun, and then later their commercial Unix
on Vax 11/780s, and starting to move to Sparcs running SunOS 4.0.
The comp. center preferred having a vendor with whom there could be
a support contract - IIRC then otherwise we probably would have
been running this too.
Ah, those were the days, when men were real men, and computers
were vaxen. :-)
It's funny the weird things that get left around the internet... and
the host file from that tape image is MASSIVE.. lol and I thought
having a DNS zone with that many enteries was crazy... I did manage
to hack the networking for it to work... It's not elegant, but
commenting out the error checking in if_de's derecv procedure seems to
work... I could ping around for the last 5 hours, and telnet into it.
I'll have to build some package with simh to run it on windows...
FWIW here is the UUCP entry I found...
------
#N eedsp
#S Vax 11/780; 4.3+NFS Wisconsin Unix
#O School of Electrical Engineering
#C Deborah J. Jackson
#E gt-eedsp!deb
#T +1 404 894 3058
#P School of EE, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA, 30332
#L 84 23 43 W / 33 46 30 N
#W eedsp!deb (Deb Jackson); Wed Jul 19 11:35:13 EDT 1989
------
I knew Deb Jackson and worked with her a little when we were both at GT
(I was in Information and Computer Science, not EE) and then a lot when
I suggested that the start-up company I was at hire her (which they
did). I've not seen her in around 18 years, nor do I know where she is
now, although presumably she's still in Atlanta somewhere.
Arnold
8:33 p.m.
New subject: Uwisc4.3 question...
Look for "SMI" for "Sun Microsystems, Inc".
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 07:00:55AM -0400, Jason Stevens wrote:
Yeah there is certainly sun code...
Yeah, it's the Sun NFS code from the brief look I took.
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com
25 Mar
25 Mar
9:37 a.m.
New subject: Uwisc4.3 question...
Ah, those were the days, when men were real men, and
computers
were vaxen. :-)
Heh. When I was in undergrad we were all on an 11/780 with 1MB of ram
and about 30-40 terminals talking to it.
As strange as it may sound, to this day I miss that. Terminal rooms
were the ultimate communication zone. Looking over someone's shoulder
and saying "how did you do that?" when they did !}fmt
Those were the days... Where is Henry Spencer when you need him?
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