< have a single 'master' source system and build and distribute from < that). For me that would be perfectly useless as the only PDP-11 compuler is the DECUS-C and ti's far to minimal to crunch that. Chicken and egg. Right now I need the chicken on my 11/73 before I can consider the sources and then I have to configure enough storage to hold them. < that everyone would be dancing with joy at being freed from binary < only releases. I sorta am but for me $100 might as well be $10,000. < < As has been mentioned before there are binary only V6, V7, and V5 < images already available without requiring a source license at Their problem is from what I can tell is they are not runable on my 11/73 with the hardware I have. There is that little problem of transfering them (via RT-11?). My config, call it a sanity test to see if there is an existant binary I can run: 11/73 1mb non-pmi ram DLV11j RQDX3 rx33, rx52(x2) (rx53 available) RX02 RLV12 and one RL02 TK50 I can swap a DHV-11 for the DLV11j. I can put in 1 more meg of non-pmi ram. The TK50 is shared with a VAX. RT-11 V5 running. There are no RKxxs available. I expect I'll never be able to network the 11s I have, nor will I have adaquate resources (Disk) to compile the kernel. I will not discuss the 11/23 or the pro350 sitting next to them as it's been implied they could only run the oldest versions due to lack of I&D space. Allison