On Sep 1, 2017, at 7:16 PM, Clem cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote: Interesting. If O'Malley had a connection wonder what it was connected too on both sides. It had to be to lbl but the Vdh was a piece of shit even in the ingvax days. The first version was even worse. On the ucb side I wonder. It would not have been Unix because UofI did the original arpanet code and that was for v6. There was never a pdp10 at ucb so I wonder if it was one of the CDC machines which were the primary systems until Unix came to be. Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite. >> On Sep 1, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Jeremy C. Reed <reed(a)reedmedia.net> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 1 Sep 2017, Clem Cole wrote: >> >> So it means that UCB was hacking privately without taking to Katz@ NYU, or >> the Columbia and Harvard folks for a while. I need to ask Lou what he >> remembers. UCB was not connected to the Arpanet at this point (Stanford >> was), so it's possible Ken's sabbatical openned up some channels that had >> not existed. [UCB does not get connected until ing70 gets the >> vdh-interface up the hill to LBL's IMP as part of the Ingress project and >> that was very late in the 70s - not long before I arrived]. > > Allman told me that Mike O'Malley had an ARPA connection at UCB that was > axed a few years before the INGRES link. So yes, I think no Arpanet > connection during the early BSD development work. (Losing this > connection may have had some controversy, but I don't know the details.) > > Fabry told me that O'Malley used Unix for his (EECS) Artificial > Intelligence research projects before he discovered it (so before the > October 1973 Symposium). > > RFC 402 of Oct 1972 has a ARPA network participant Michael O'Malley of > University of Michigan Phonetics Laboratory. Also this draft report at > http://digitalcollections.library.cmu.edu/awweb/awarchive?type=file&ite… > about the ARPA speech recognition project lists M. H. O'Malley at UCB > and says the principle investigator from Univ. of Michigan moved to UCB. > (I never go ahold of him to see if had any other relevance to my BSD > story.) > >