22 Nov
2019
22 Nov
'19
1:53 a.m.
From: Arnold Robbins
The Bell Labs guys in some ways were too.
And there's the famous? story about the Multics error messages in Latin,
courtesty of Bernie Greenberg. One actually appeared at a customer site once,
whereupon hilarity ensued.
Noel
22 Nov
22 Nov
2:08 a.m.
New subject: AOS and IBM/RT [Re: Amdahl UTS, AIX/370, AIX/ESA
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:53 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
wrote:
One of my favorite stories of the same vein was a masscomp story. We were
chasing a rare event (as I recall it was when we first were debugging
Multiprocessor stuff and it a lock order problem). But we could not get
the customers to tell us about what was happening, since the system
recovered quickly, but we might kill a process. We had done a few releases
and make a few changes but we could never reproduce it.
I never knew who it was but someone ??Jack Burness if I had to guess?? put
out a patch with a couple of error messages in Klingon and dumped a bunch
of information. Sure enough this was noticed, customer stopped, we got the
needed data, as they reported the error. But it was a high visibility
customer, so the president (Mr. Potatohead) got a phone call. Fossil (our
boss) made us swear it would never happen again, but he defended us to the
President. We found the bug ;-)
From: Arnold
Robbins
The Bell Labs guys in some ways were too.
And there's the famous? story about the Multics error messages in Latin,
courtesty of Bernie Greenberg. One actually appeared at a customer site
once,
whereupon hilarity ensued.
23 Nov
23 Nov
10:40 a.m.
New subject: AOS and IBM/RT [Re: Amdahl UTS, AIX/370, AIX/ESA
Hello!
Clem by chance do you remember what the error message response was? It
would be interesting to see what phrases were used. For example, on
the IBM side of things, a fellow Adam and I both know, coded an entire
application so that everything it said and did would be in Klingonese.
No I do not remember which one it was, and what have you, I only
remember it surfacing during his talk at the IBM offices here in town,
during the early years of running Tux on the IBM S/390 systems.
I also find it strange that sometimes even Google is thinking in that language.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 3:09 PM Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:53 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
One of my favorite stories of the same vein was a masscomp story. We were chasing a
rare event (as I recall it was when we first were debugging Multiprocessor stuff and it a
lock order problem). But we could not get the customers to tell us about what was
happening, since the system recovered quickly, but we might kill a process. We had done a
few releases and make a few changes but we could never reproduce it.
I never knew who it was but someone ??Jack Burness if I had to guess?? put out a patch
with a couple of error messages in Klingon and dumped a bunch of information. Sure enough
this was noticed, customer stopped, we got the needed data, as they reported the error.
But it was a high visibility customer, so the president (Mr. Potatohead) got a phone call.
Fossil (our boss) made us swear it would never happen again, but he defended us to the
President. We found the bug ;-)
From: Arnold Robbins
The Bell Labs guys in some ways were too.
And there's the famous? story about the Multics error messages in Latin,
courtesty of Bernie Greenberg. One actually appeared at a customer site once,
whereupon hilarity ensued.
6:51 p.m.
New subject: AOS and IBM/RT [Re: Amdahl UTS, AIX/370, AIX/ESA
No I don't remember Many details on this one as I did not do it. As I said
I think it was a Burness message in the graphics subsystem, but I cannot
swear to it. I just remember the time frame and what happened. Roger
Gourd's reaction was priceless when Mr Potatohead called us on it. It was
one of the times I really learned to respect Roger.
That said, Ill see what I can find by asking around.
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:41 PM Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello!
Clem by chance do you remember what the error message response was? It
would be interesting to see what phrases were used. For example, on
the IBM side of things, a fellow Adam and I both know, coded an entire
application so that everything it said and did would be in Klingonese.
No I do not remember which one it was, and what have you, I only
remember it surfacing during his talk at the IBM offices here in town,
during the early years of running Tux on the IBM S/390 systems.
I also find it strange that sometimes even Google is thinking in that
language.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 3:09 PM Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
were
chasing a rare event (as I recall it was when we first were debugging
Multiprocessor stuff and it a lock order problem). But we could not get
the customers to tell us about what was happening, since the system
recovered quickly, but we might kill a process. We had done a few releases
and make a few changes but we could never reproduce it.
--
Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:53 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc(a)mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
wrote:
>
> > From: Arnold Robbins
>
> > The Bell Labs guys in some ways were too.
>
> And there's the famous? story about the Multics error messages in Latin,
> courtesty of Bernie Greenberg. One actually appeared at a customer site
once,
whereupon
hilarity ensued.
One of my favorite stories of the same vein was a masscomp story. We
I never knew who it was but someone ??Jack Burness if I had to guess??
put out a
patch with a couple of error messages in Klingon and dumped a
bunch of information. Sure enough this was noticed, customer stopped, we
got the needed data, as they reported the error. But it was a high
visibility customer, so the president (Mr. Potatohead) got a phone call.
Fossil (our boss) made us swear it would never happen again, but he
defended us to the President. We found the bug ;-)
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