On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 10:41 AM Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote: whiteboard in our office one night after a beer and pizza run. Rick Spicklemeir, Tom Quarles, and Jim Kleckner also participated in those bull sessions. I started writing the program soon after that and had it working to a point in a couple of hours. I don't remember the issues, but a couple of them were when I left for the USENIX conference later that week. When I got back Peter had finished it and put it into RCS. The key is that the coding was primarily Peter and myself, but Rick, TQ, and Jim all had contributed in some manner, too, me — and as I said, having worked on networking for several years before my time at UCB, I should have known better. But did not even think about it. I failed Henry's ten programming commandments and concluded that the world was a Vax. Mei culpa. Thanks, Clem, these are very interesting notes. The protocol had some interesting aspects to it; since the ctl address was embedded in the message sent to the distant end, a trick of some locals when I was younger was to put fake data in the request. The effect would be that one would get a request to talk from user1@host1, but actually be talking to user2@host2. This could either be very funny or very uncool. I'm curious how the original worked, which I sort of gather was before sockets? How did the two users rendezvous? - Dan C.