On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 03:40:53PM +0000, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: I'm not doing that hacking, too old and burnt out, but for those who still have some juice left my guess is it is fun because the older systems were pretty simple. A kernel and a few well known device drivers is not a lot of code (the millions of lines of Linux kernel code is almost all drivers).

On 11/17/2018 08:40 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: I think it has something to do with wanting to verses needing to (for one reason or another). I've always found it easier to help someone else solve their problem than it is to solve the same problem for myself. I attributed that to the desire vs need. Maybe the attribution should be more to the company than the singularity. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

When everyone was reading iron man, spider man, x-men I was the weirdo reading “What if?” Sure tcpip scales, but it wasn’t the first, nor the last.. Much like many of these old systems, owning one is far from practical, let alone a functioning one, but emulation is so convenient. Just as dynamips is another great hero of emulation, bringing all kinds of networking topologies into play. I guess it's also a break from the x86_64/arm64 boring of the day to day. Sent from my Windows 10 Nokia Lumia 1520 From: Lars Brinkhoff Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 11:41 PM To: jsteve(a)superglobalmegacorp.com Cc: tuhs(a)tuhs.org Subject: Re: [TUHS] Chaosnet for 4.1BSD jsteve(a)superglobalmegacorp.com writes: Sure, at least it's both historical and Unix. The CH11 device is for all SIMH Unibus computers, so VAX, PDP-11, and PDP-10 (KS1). There supposedly were patches for PDP-11 Unix too, but I haven't seen them so far. Why oh why is there such a high correlation between archaic obsolete systems and sheer hacking joy? I'm just dying to have MagicSix on Chaosnet, but it's not to be.