Hi, I was given an PDP-11/84 but I have no idea what OS it has installed. It says this when it starts up: Testing in progress - Please wait 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 starting system . __: ADA1: Load resident files A.DU0: BOOT from @ 526 fp ch Memory size 2048kBytes v06.12.413 VISONIK Building supervisory and managment system Landis & Gyr, Building Control __: INI0: Start of RSYS ! __:SU03: Update Common from SYSL ! __: SIX2: Dataset IM: Rebuild Index __: SIX2: Dataset REA: Rebuild Index __: SIX2: Dataset DM: Rebuild Index __: MELD: Init STA-Pointer 43252 __: MELD: Init ZMS-Pointer 10774 It has controlled the ventilation system on a hospital of that can be of any help. Anyone knows what OS this could be? And another thing. This machine had a Wangtek 5150EQ tape streamer. If I look at the cables it seems to be SCSI. And the controller for the streamer is not manufactured by DEC. (There's no DEC logo on it at least.) It says B 01079 ISS.4 1984 CTS-11 CKK 3890 on the board. Is this a SCSI controller board? Can I connect SCSI disks to it or is it a streamer only interface? There're some (bad quality) pictures of the board at http://spektr.ludvika.se/museum/pics/pdp11-board1.jpg There's a switch on the front of the CPU box that says "AUX ON | OFF". And on the back of the PSU there's a switch that says "remote | off | local". What function do they have? Thanks! -- Jorgen Pehrson jp(a)spektr.ludvika.se http://spektr.ludvika.se/museum Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA00303 for pups-liszt; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:48:25 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from alph02.triumf.ca (alph02.Triumf.CA [142.90.114.18]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA00298 for <pups(a)minnie.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:48:18 +1100 (EST) Received: by alph02.triumf.ca; id AA23582; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:48:04 -0800 From: Tim Shoppa <shoppa(a)alph02.triumf.ca> Message-Id: <9803021648.AA23582(a)alph02.triumf.ca> Subject: Re: Some PDP11 Q.. To: jorgen.pehrson(a)seinf.mail.ABB.com Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:48:04 -0800 (PST) Cc: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au In-Reply-To: <412565BB.0036DA5F.00(a)notestest.mail.abb.com> from "jorgen.pehrson(a)seinf.mail.abb.com" at Mar 2, 98 11:30:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk It looks like a version of RSTS/E to me (but that's mainly because I know it isn't RT-11 or RSX-11...) It's almost certainly a QIC-02 controller, probably doing TS11 emulation. The sure way to test if its doing TS11 emulation or not is to drop into console ODT and see if there's something living at the TS11 CSRs at 17772520. These control the 3-wire DEC power controller bus. Warren may want to correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't non-Unix issues like these best taken to forums such as vmsnet.pdp-11 and comp.os.rsts ? Tim. (shoppa(a)triumf.ca) Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03193 for pups-liszt; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:28:13 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03188 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:28:09 +1100 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA08076; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:28:19 +1100 (EST) From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199803022328.KAA08076(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Re: Full Steam Ahead with License To: dionj(a)sco.COM (Dion Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:28:19 +1100 (EST) Cc: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) In-Reply-To: <19980302152605.46176(a)sco.com> from Dion Johnson at "Mar 2, 98 03:26:05 pm" Reply-To: wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk In article by Dion Johnson: Goodo. I suspect that would be fine. That's excellent news, Dion. I'll cc this to the PUPS mailing list. Thanks again, Warren Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03683 for pups-liszt; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:54:41 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03678 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:54:35 +1100 (EST) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09048; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:24:32 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id MAA14426; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:24:30 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980303122430.47237(a)freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:24:30 +1030 From: Greg Lehey <grog(a)lemis.com> To: Dion Johnson <dionj(a)sco.COM> Cc: PDP Unix Preservation <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Re: Full Steam Ahead with License References: <19980302152605.46176(a)sco.com> <199803022328.KAA08076(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199803022328.KAA08076(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au>; from Warren Toomey on Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 10:28:19AM +1100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk On Tue, 3 March 1998 at 10:28:19 +1100, Warren Toomey wrote: Great news! I would think that you should add MasterCard to that list, possibly instead of Amexco. Where do we go from here? Can we start to bombard you with license applications? Greg Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03728 for pups-liszt; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:13:13 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03723 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:13:09 +1100 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA08617 for pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:13:33 +1100 (EST) From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199803030213.NAA08617(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Re: Full Steam Ahead with License To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:13:33 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: <19980303122430.47237(a)freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Mar 3, 98 12:24:30 pm" Reply-To: wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk In article by Greg Lehey: Dion sent me this suggestion: So I guess what we have is this: 1. Prospective licensee gets the license from [PUPS] website. 2. He signs and sends to SCO and sends his $100 to SF PO box. 3. Someone here [at SCO] lets [PUPS] know that he is a licensee. 4. [PUPS] can send him the source code (and charge a fee for that as you see fit). SCO wants the license on paper. I asked him for the final license in a form suitable for printing, e.g PostScript, PDF, Word format (gasp!). Greg's suggestion about MasterCard went to Dion as well. I guess we just have to sit back & wait until we get the word (and the final license) from Dion. As soon as I have all the details, there will be a description of the steps you need to perform in order to get a license placed on the PUPS home page. Cheers all, Warren Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA06396 for pups-liszt; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:32:22 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from skatter.USask.Ca (skatter.usask.ca [128.233.14.1]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06391 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:32:17 +1100 (EST) Received: from hydrus.USask.Ca (hydrus.usask.ca [128.233.14.27]) by skatter.USask.Ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16872; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:32:08 -0600 (CST) From: Neil Johnson <neil(a)skatter.usask.ca> Received: (from neil@localhost) by hydrus.USask.Ca (8.7.2/8.7.2) id KAA00644; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:32:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:32:06 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803031632.KAA00644(a)hydrus.USask.Ca> To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au, wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au Subject: Re: Full Steam Ahead with License Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk Another suggestion - keep a list of the licencees on the PUPS website. That way everyone would know who they could exchange software with. Most new stuff would probably end up on the site anyway, but during development it might be good to know. Neil Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA06544 for pups-liszt; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:08:49 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from alph02.triumf.ca (alph02.Triumf.CA [142.90.114.18]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA06539 for <pups(a)minnie.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:08:43 +1100 (EST) Received: by alph02.triumf.ca; id AA24509; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:08:37 -0800 From: Tim Shoppa <shoppa(a)alph02.triumf.ca> Message-Id: <9803031708.AA24509(a)alph02.triumf.ca> Subject: Re: Full Steam Ahead with License To: neil(a)skatter.usask.ca (Neil Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:08:37 -0800 (PST) Cc: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au, wkt(a)CS.ADFA.OZ.AU In-Reply-To: <199803031632.KAA00644(a)hydrus.USask.Ca> from "Neil Johnson" at Mar 3, 98 10:32:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk As most all of the "new stuff" lately seems to be 2.11BSD-related, this brings up a (probably silly) question of mine: what's the relationship between the SCO license agreement and 2.9, 2.10, and 2.11BSD? Will the SCO license be functionally equivalent to a WE/AT&T source license (other than the per-machine limitations)? In other words, are the 2BSD distributions "SUCCESSOR OPERATING SYSTEMS" in the language of the agreement? Another stupid question: few of us (perhaps I'm the only one) have CD-ROM readers/writers attached to PDP-11's. Will those who have to transfer the source kit through a PC-clone or other Unix workstation have to license the intermediary machines with SCO? In other words, will the intermediary machines need to be registered as "DESIGNATED CPU"s? Tim. Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA07477 for pups-liszt; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:10:19 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07472 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:10:14 +1100 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA15973 for pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:10:42 +1100 (EST) From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199803032110.IAA15973(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Re: Full Steam Ahead with License To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:10:42 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: <9803031708.AA24509(a)alph02.triumf.ca> from Tim Shoppa at "Mar 3, 98 09:08:37 am" Reply-To: wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk In article by Tim Shoppa: 2BSDs are definitely SUCCESSOR OPERATING SYSTEMS as they are derived from the listed products (6th, 7th Edition and 32V) and are 16-bit operating systems. My interpretation is this: DESIGNATED CPU means all CPUs licensed as such for a specific SOURCE CODE PRODUCT. SCO grants to LICENSEE a personal, nontransferable and nonexclusive right to use, in the AUTHORIZED COUNTRY, each SOURCE CODE PRODUCT identified in Section 3 of this Agreement, solely for personal use [..] and solely on or in conjunction with DESIGNATED CPUs [...]. Such right to use includes the right to modify such SOURCE CODE PRODUCT and to prepare DERIVED BINARY PRODUCT based on such SOURCE CODE PRODUCT, In my opinion, you can't USE the source code unless you have a CPU which run the machine code which is produced by the source code. I can't prepare a DERIVED BINARY PRODUCT if I don't have a PDP-11 or an emulator of such. I'd better check with Dion. Warren Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA07528 for pups-liszt; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:16:11 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07523 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:16:08 +1100 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA16053 for pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:16:37 +1100 (EST) From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199803032116.IAA16053(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Re: Full Steam Ahead with License To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:16:37 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199803031632.KAA00644(a)hydrus.USask.Ca> from Neil Johnson at "Mar 3, 98 10:32:06 am" Reply-To: wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk In article by Neil Johnson: This is a good idea, but I'd be happy for a licencee to opt out from the list if they so desired. Warren Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA07770 for pups-liszt; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:48:48 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07765 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:48:42 +1100 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA17305 for pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:49:10 +1100 (EST) From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199803032149.IAA17305(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: PUPS Volunteers list To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:49:10 +1100 (EST) Reply-To: wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk All, I've just created a SMALL mailing list for those people who have volunteered to write CD-ROMs, cut tapes etc. so we can distribute the software covered by the up-coming SCO source license. If you had volunteered but didn't receive any email about it today, please mail me back as I've missed you somehow. Still waiting on Dion re the final license document and the questions regarding Mastercard and `intermediate' CPUs. Cheers all, Warren Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07931 for pups-liszt; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:20:44 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07926 for <pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:20:41 +1100 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA17553 for pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:21:10 +1100 (EST) From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199803032221.JAA17553(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: From Dion: intermediate CPUs To: pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:21:10 +1100 (EST) Reply-To: wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk ----- Forwarded message from Dion Johnson ----- Right, that makes no sense at all. I suspect we (you and I) will want to whip up a sort of cover letter for the license that explains how to fill out the form and, as experience accumulates, a FAQ, etc. -Dion ----- End of forwarded message from Dion Johnson ----- Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07993 for pups-liszt; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:33:15 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f