Paul Winalski: That was the VAXstation-11/RC. === Yep, that's the name. My first batch of discarded MicroVAX IIs were the original backbone routers for a large university campus, installed ca. 1990. That backbone ran over serial-line connections, at 56Kbps, which was quite impressive for the day given the physical distances involved. Either they had a bunch of Qbus backplanes lying around, or someone computed that the cost of an 11/RC plus a backplane was appreciably less than a system with an unobstructed backplane. In any case, they swapped most of the backplanes themselves. The one I got that still had the glue in was an anomaly; maybe it was a spare chassis. The MicroVAX routers ran Ultrix, and some of them had uptimes of five years when they were finally shut down to be discarded. All the hardware I rescued tested out fine, and some of it is still running happily in my basement. I've had a few disk failures over the years, and I think lost one power supply back around Y2K and maybe had a DZV11 fail, but that's it. We don't make hardware like that any more. Norman Wilson Toronto ON