27 Dec
2015
27 Dec
'15
8:23 p.m.
Jon von Neumann was born in 1903; without him, we probably wouldn't have
had computers at all (but we could've had a Wintel version, I suppose,
wherein everything is controlled by BB).
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27 Dec
27 Dec
9:36 p.m.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 06:23:50AM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote:
Jon von Neumann was born in 1903; without him, we
probably wouldn't have
had computers at all (but we could've had a Wintel version, I suppose,
wherein everything is controlled by BB).
Sure we would have had computers. We just wouldn't have had privilege
escalations based on stack smashes. That guy ruined the ENIAC!
khm
28 Dec
28 Dec
8:48 a.m.
On 2015-Dec-28 06:23:50 +1100, Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
Jon von Neumann was born in 1903; without him, we
probably wouldn't have
had computers at all
There were computers before von Neumann - mostly female.
Without the von Neumann architechure, an entire class of exploits
wouldn't exist.
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Peter Jeremy
29 Dec
29 Dec
1:05 a.m.
On January 29, 1944 J. Presper Eckert wrote a memo explaining how
information could be stored on spinning disks, using one large memory to
hold intermediate results, lookup tables, and program information. This
was several months before von Neumann joined the project. See A History of
Computing in the Twentieth Century (1980).
von Neumann did a good job of writing up the idea, but it would have
happened without him.
Andru
On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Dave Horsfall <dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
Jon von Neumann was born in 1903; without him, we
probably wouldn't have
had computers at all (but we could've had a Wintel version, I suppose,
wherein everything is controlled by BB).
--
Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will
suffer."
2:07 a.m.
On Monday, 28 December 2015 at 16:05:15 -0800, Andru Luvisi wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Dave Horsfall
<dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
If anybody's interested, there's an online version of this memo at
http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Knuth_Don_X4100/PDF_index…
,
not the first document on that page.
Greg
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Jon von Neumann was born in 1903; without him, we
probably wouldn't have
had computers at all (but we could've had a Wintel version, I suppose,
wherein everything is controlled by BB).
On January 29, 1944 J. Presper Eckert wrote a memo explaining how
information could be stored on spinning disks, using one large memory to
hold intermediate results, lookup tables, and program information. This
was several months before von Neumann joined the project. See A History of
Computing in the Twentieth Century (1980).
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