New subject: [pups] Advice on which PDP-11 processor handbook to buy

24 Jan 2007

Why not just download one from one of the many online archives?  Most of
them are in PDF format.  

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:25:52 -0800 iking(a)killthewabbit.org wrote:
...
  Wow, they're saying $40 for the 1978 book?  I
don't think I'll lend out my
 copy....

 FYI, I run v6 on a PDP-11/34a with RK05 drives.  The kernel that boots up
 from the install media tries to be pretty generic, and yes, you can make
 changes to it to optimize it for various platforms.	

 So the real question is: what do you want to do?  If you just want to run a
...
  PDP-11 in emulation, any of these books will do fine
for you.  The basic
 PDP-11 instruction set is pretty constant across the series (with some
 niggling exceptions, but nothing you're likely to deal with in an
 emulator).
 There were extended instruction sets for some models, but again with an
 emulator you can play to your heart's content.  There were some differences
...
  in memory management, which may or may not be
important depending on what
 you want to run; again, v6 runs fine on an 11/34 without separate I/D
 spaces, while v7 and 2.11BSD require it (as I recall).  But once
 again, simh
 will let you rock on with any of these OS's.	

 For understanding Lions (i.e. understanding the underlying hardware
 better),
 any of these will do.  IMHO, YMMV, MOUSE.  And welcome to the community!
 Cheers -- Ian 

 -----Original Message-----
 From: pups-bounces(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org] On
...
  Behalf Of Ross Tucker
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 8:11 PM
 To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org
 Subject: [pups] Advice on which PDP-11 processor handbook to buy

 Hello all-
 I'm a n00b on this list, so please forgive me my sins as I forgive those
 who.... uh, never mind. Anyway, I am looking to get a "PDP-11 Processor
 Handbook" from Amazon or eBay (so I can understand the Lions
 book) and there are so many different editions and versions... Lions writes
...
  about the 11/40, but supposedly, that's not too
different from the /45 or
 /70. My simh boot images for v6 are for the /45 (though supposedly I'm
 supposed to be able to modify them to run on the others, right?).

 What I'm asking is your advice on which Handbook to buy. Here is a synopsis
...
  on the editions and prices from amazon:
 /04/34A/44/60/70  (1979) $10
 /04/34/45/55/60  (1978) $40
 /70 (1975) $16
 /04, 24, 34A, 70 (Jun 1981) $16
 /04/05/10/35/40/45 (1975) $45

 What do you think?

 Thanks for your time,
 Ross
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