8 Nov
2005
8 Nov
'05
10:34 p.m.
Hi all,
here at freaknet medialab we made some images of our
RL02 disk packs with RT-11 and GAMMA-11 software
(specific for a Nuclear Camera, this pdp-11 was used
for medical exams) :)
those images are very funny, we can use them under
simh emulator! :)
So, now that we have the backups, we're wondering about
installing UNIX in this pdp11/34.
what can we install? any hint ?
please help! :)
p.s. something about our restoration and the disk image of
our rt-11 system is online at http://zaverio.net/pdp11, under
the "stuff" directory. :)
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8 Nov
8 Nov
11:35 p.m.
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 10:34:06PM +0000, asbesto wrote..
Hi all,
here at freaknet medialab we made some images of our
RL02 disk packs with RT-11 and GAMMA-11 software
(specific for a Nuclear Camera, this pdp-11 was used
for medical exams) :)
I have colleagues at work that used to service these GAMMA-11
machines. Kinda special it seems.
those images are very funny, we can use them under
simh emulator! :)
So, now that we have the backups, we're wondering about
installing UNIX in this pdp11/34.
what can we install? any hint ?
I had Ultrix-11 on ours, using 2 RK05 drives. But only briefly, as
the lack of split I/D makes an 11/34 with Ultrix-11 about as fast
as tar flowing uphill :-)
My guess would be some V6-ish version ?? Never tried that..
Wilko
9 Nov
9 Nov
1:16 p.m.
Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 12:35:08AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
but, can we install a RK05 image into an RL02 drive ? :%
or, maybe a V6 ?
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> here at freaknet medialab we made some images of
our
> RL02 disk packs with RT-11 and GAMMA-11 software
> (specific for a Nuclear Camera, this pdp-11 was used
> for medical exams) :)
what can we
install? any hint ?
I had Ultrix-11 on ours, using 2 RK05 drives. But only
briefly, as 
4:22 p.m.
Weirdness - my original reply to your mail never showed up....
First of all, YES to v6! That's what I have on my 11/34, with 192k of
MOS memory and two RK05 drives. You can regen the whole system with no
problem. I'm only running the console on it, but in multiuser mode.
One of the images on the PUPS site is a v6 distribution tape. But even
if you don't have a tape drive, it seems you could build a disk image on
an emulator, then stream that over to your RL with vtserver. I've had
some success doing this with other machines (fortunately, the archives
contained RK05 images and I have RKs). -- Ian
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From: tuhs-bounces(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org]
On Behalf Of asbesto
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:17 AM
To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] What UNIX on a PDP-11/34 ?
Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 12:35:08AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
but, can we install a RK05 image into an RL02 drive ? :%
or, maybe a V6 ?
--
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> here at freaknet medialab we made some images of
our
> RL02 disk packs with RT-11 and GAMMA-11 software
> (specific for a Nuclear Camera, this pdp-11 was used
> for medical exams) :)
what can we
install? any hint ?
I had Ultrix-11 on ours, using 2 RK05 drives. But only briefly,
as 
4:47 p.m.
On 11/9/05, Ian King <iking(a)killthewabbit.org> wrote:
Weirdness - my original reply to your mail never
showed up....
First of all, YES to v6! That's what I have on my 11/34, with 192k of
MOS memory and two RK05 drives. You can regen the whole system with no
problem. I'm only running the console on it, but in multiuser mode.
One of the images on the PUPS site is a v6 distribution tape. But even
if you don't have a tape drive, it seems you could build a disk image on
an emulator, then stream that over to your RL with vtserver. I've had
some success doing this with other machines (fortunately, the archives
contained RK05 images and I have RKs). -- Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: tuhs-bounces(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org]
On Behalf Of asbesto
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:17 AM
To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] What UNIX on a PDP-11/34 ?
Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 12:35:08AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
but, can we install a RK05 image into an RL02 drive ? :%
or, maybe a V6 ?
6th Edition Unix predates RL02 drives by a few years. I would try for
DEC's V7m.
carl
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clowenst(a)ucsd.edu
> here at freaknet medialab we made some
images of our
> RL02 disk packs with RT-11 and GAMMA-11 software
> (specific for a Nuclear Camera, this pdp-11 was used
> for medical exams) :)
what can
we install? any hint ?
I had Ultrix-11 on ours, using 2 RK05 drives. But only
briefly, as
11:56 p.m.
Oh bugger, I'd forgotten about device drivers... my bad.
-----Original Message-----
From: tuhs-bounces(a)minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org]
On Behalf Of Carl Lowenstein
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:48 AM
To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] What UNIX on a PDP-11/34 ?
On 11/9/05, Ian King <iking(a)killthewabbit.org> wrote:
Weirdness - my original reply to your mail never
showed up....
First of all, YES to v6! That's what I have on my 11/34, with 192k of
MOS memory and two RK05 drives. You can regen the
whole system with
no problem. I'm only running the console on it, but in multiuser
mode.
One of the images on the PUPS site is a v6 distribution tape. But
even if you don't have a tape drive, it seems you could build a disk
image on an emulator, then stream that over to your RL with vtserver.
I've had some success doing this with other
machines (fortunately, the
archives contained RK05 images and I have RKs). --
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: tuhs-bounces(a)minnie.tuhs.org
[mailto:tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org]
On Behalf Of asbesto
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:17 AM
To: tuhs(a)tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] What UNIX on a PDP-11/34 ?
Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 12:35:08AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
but, can we install a RK05 image into an RL02 drive ? :%
or, maybe a V6 ?
6th Edition Unix predates RL02 drives by a few years. I would try for
DEC's V7m.
carl
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clowenst(a)ucsd.edu
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> here at freaknet medialab we made some
images of our
> RL02 disk packs with RT-11 and GAMMA-11 software (specific for a
> Nuclear Camera, this pdp-11 was used for medical exams) :)
what can
we install? any hint ?
I had Ultrix-11 on ours, using 2 RK05 drives. But only
briefly, as 
10 Nov
10 Nov
5:49 p.m.
asbesto wrote:
Hi all,
here at freaknet medialab we made some images of our
RL02 disk packs with RT-11 and GAMMA-11 software
(specific for a Nuclear Camera, this pdp-11 was used
for medical exams) :)
those images are very funny, we can use them under
simh emulator! :)
So, now that we have the backups, we're wondering about
installing UNIX in this pdp11/34.
what can we install? any hint ?
please help! :)
p.s. something about our restoration and the disk image of
our rt-11 system is online at http://zaverio.net/pdp11, under
the "stuff" directory. :)
V7m should work for you. I used to run it on an 11/40 (which is not
much different from the 11/34, as far as the software goes) and it
worked well.
--Pat.
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