well I think I've flogged this dead horse enough... :) Basically I've mashed in as much as I could figure out, and got the majority of a make install (build world?) on this thing to work.. I still don't know where /usr/bin/install comes from as I couldn't readily identify the source in NetBSD 0.9 or any of the 386 BSD's... I'm probably looking in the wrong place or maybe it's just from Net/2? I didn't spend too long trying to work out stuff like that. If anyone wants, it's in a Qemu runnable image here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bsd42/files/4BSD%20under%20Windows/v0.4/Net… It is just under 50MB, which I guess isn't bad since it's source and binaries.. I've manually copied over a few things from etc, and it seems that NetBSD 0.8 still identifies itself as 386BSD.. did anyone run 0.8 and remember? The CVS history on /etc/motd seems to have the 0.8 still reporting as 386BSD which didn't change until 0.9 ...