28 Jan
2000
28 Jan
'00
7:45 p.m.
I have written several device drivers (e.g., disk, DSP, DAT) for Solaris.
It is the slowest OS since Multix. Solaris is buggy, albeit pretty darned
stable. Interesting OS, but I'd stick by BSD (from a systems programmer
type).
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From: "Jonathon McKitrick" <jcm(a)dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
To: "Greg Lehey" <grog(a)lemis.com>
Cc: "Joerg B. Micheel" <joerg(a)begemot.org>; "Steven M. Schultz"
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Subject: Re: Sun release source code for Solaris 8
Message too convoluted to tell who actually wrote this....but i
believe Greg wrote the second group of lines....
Interestingly, i noticed recently that the response time on usa.net
seemed much slower. It appears consistently so, either by ppp
connection or by network/T1 line. A few months ago, netcraft showed
that they were running FreeBSD. Guess what they are running
now? Yup... SOlaris. I dropped them a line saying i noticed the speed
difference.
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Revel in your time!"
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That
would make quite an interesting test. How much does
ftp.cdrom.com gain by running FreeBSD instead of Solaris ?
Good question. My guess is that Solaris 2 just couldn't handle that
many connections, but it compete reasonably well with fewer
connections (say 1000). I'll copy the FreeBSD chat people and see
what they think. From "Jonathon McKitrick"
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To: John Rosenberg <jcrosenberg(a)earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: Sun release source code for Solaris 8
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I'm a little concerned where all this leaves FreeBSD. If Solaris goes
open source, or something similar, and tries to compete with w2k, plus
linux is out there growing, and BeOS will be free soon.... FreeBSD might be a
tough sell. Several guys i know say the majority of new unix installs
are Linux with few BSD. They say the only BSD users that are growing
are ISPs. Does anyone have any stats on how fast we are
growing on the desktop, or in general?
Also, the white paper on BeOS claims that with all the new advances in
hardware, modern OS's have too many layers, which they call 'silt', to
allow them to use the hardware effectively. They argue that only
starting from scratch allows full use of modern technology, including
multimedia advances. How can FreeBSD keep up? We don't have kernel
threading and SMP support is still in the works, and most BSD features
are 'add-ons'. Should this be a concern for the future?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathon McKitrick <jcm(a)dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
To: John Rosenberg <jcrosenberg(a)earthlink.net>
Cc: Greg Lehey <grog(a)lemis.com>; Joerg B. Micheel <joerg(a)begemot.org>;
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I'm a little concerned where all this leaves FreeBSD. If Solaris goes
open source, or something similar, and tries to compete with w2k, plus
linux is out there growing, and BeOS will be free soon.... FreeBSD might
be a
tough sell. Several guys i know say the majority of
new unix installs
are Linux with few BSD. They say the only BSD users that are growing
are ISPs. Does anyone have any stats on how fast we are
growing on the desktop, or in general?
Also, the white paper on BeOS claims that with all the new advances in
hardware, modern OS's have too many layers, which they call 'silt', to
allow them to use the hardware effectively. They argue that only
starting from scratch allows full use of modern technology, including
multimedia advances. How can FreeBSD keep up? We don't have kernel
threading and SMP support is still in the works, and most BSD features
are 'add-ons'. Should this be a concern for the future?
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* Mirian Crzig Lennox wrote:
This is in contrast to the Ancient UNIX licence, where
it's my
impression that SCO really doesn't care what you do with UNIX so long
as you don't share code with unlicensed people.
But that's what you'd expect isn't it? Sun have some reasonable hope
of continuing to make money from Solaris, and they obviously would
like to retain some control, while SCO is unlikely to be regarding
6th-edition Unix as a big earner...
--tim
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