16 Mar
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16 Mar
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4:28 a.m.
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 16:56:45 -0700
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Subject: [TUHS] Re: OSF/1.0 Sources
To: "Tautological Eunuch Horticultural Scythians" <tuhs(a)tuhs.org
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On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, at 14:03, Warren Toomey via TUHS wrote:
Being somewhat of a collector I also have a Osf1-2.0-Src Tar.zip :-)
take care,
uncle rubl
--
The more I learn the better I understand I know nothing.
I'm still worried about my legal butt :-(
Speaking of, there’s also the OSF/1.0 source from the same uploader:
https://archive.org/details/SapphireDensetsu_gmail_OSF1
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~j 
16 Mar
16 Mar
7:15 a.m.
New subject: OSF/1.0 Sources
On 16 Mar 2023, at 04:28, Rudi Blom <rudi.j.blom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Out of curiosity: are the sources for “mx", the binary translator from Ultrix to
OSF/1 binaries, included? I have fond memories of mx’ing ghostscript from Ultrix to OSF/1
to get it to run under OSF/1 T1.0 - not only did it work but it was the only way to get
ghostscript running (for TeX to PS, of course) for quite some time.
Arrigo
Speaking of,
there’s also the OSF/1.0 source from the same uploader:
https://archive.org/details/SapphireDensetsu_gmail_OSF1
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~j
Being somewhat of a collector I also have a Osf1-2.0-Src Tar.zip :-)
7:29 a.m.
New subject: OSF/1.0 Sources
appended osf1-1.lst, osf1-2.lst
They contain output of the 'dir' command on my notebook.
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 13:15, Arrigo Triulzi <arrigo(a)alchemistowl.org>
wrote:
On 16 Mar 2023, at 04:28, Rudi Blom
<rudi.j.blom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Out of curiosity: are the sources for “mx", the binary translator from
Ultrix to OSF/1 binaries, included? I have fond memories of mx’ing
ghostscript from Ultrix to OSF/1 to get it to run under OSF/1 T1.0 - not
only did it work but it was the only way to get ghostscript running (for
TeX to PS, of course) for quite some time.
Arrigo
--
The more I learn the better I understand I know nothing.
Speaking
of, there’s also the OSF/1.0 source from the same uploader:
https://archive.org/details/SapphireDensetsu_gmail_OSF1
--
~j
Being somewhat of a collector I also have a Osf1-2.0-Src Tar.zip :-)
8:35 a.m.
New subject: OSF/1.0 Sources
On 16 Mar 2023, at 07:29, Rudi Blom
<rudi.j.blom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
appended osf1-1.lst, osf1-2.lst
Ah, those are the original installation packages - I have them, by pure accident, for
Tru64 Unix 4.0D but I am definitely not uploading those anywhere…
No idea where ‘mx’ would be in them but it must be there as it was shipped without any
special additional PAKs needed.
Arrigo
10:25 a.m.
New subject: OSF/1.0 Sources
on osf1-1.0 I see a OSCBISL200 which seems to include mx and mxr. I don't
know anything about it but found this chapter online with at the very end:
"For more information on the mx translator and the mxr run-time
environment, see the DECmigrate for DEC OSF/1 V1.2: Translating Executables
manual."
http://www2.phys.canterbury.ac.nz/dept/docs/manuals/unix/DEC_4.0e_Docs/HTML…
BTW what format do the OSC... 200 archives have so I can 'unpack' them
easily?
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 14:35, Arrigo Triulzi <arrigo(a)alchemistowl.org>
wrote:
--
The more I learn the better I understand I know nothing.
On 16 Mar
2023, at 07:29, Rudi Blom <rudi.j.blom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
appended osf1-1.lst, osf1-2.lst
Ah, those are the original installation packages - I have them, by pure
accident, for Tru64 Unix 4.0D but I am definitely not uploading those
anywhere…
No idea where ‘mx’ would be in them but it must be there as it was shipped
without any special additional PAKs needed.
Arrigo
1:15 p.m.
New subject: OSF/1.0 Sources
On 16 Mar 2023, at 10:25, Rudi Blom <rudi.j.blom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
BTW what format do the OSC... 200 archives have so I
can 'unpack' them easily?
You install them using setld, as in:
setld -l OSC…
(you can have multiple sets in one setld command)
To see what is installed:
setld -i
I assume you don’t need a license for it, otherwise you would have a so-called PAK file
and you’d load it with:
lmf register < pakfile
lmf load OSF…
the “pakfile” could be (and was, in academia) a huge list of licenses which you’d load in
one go.
Arrigo
3:35 p.m.
New subject: OSF/1.0 Sources
A misunderstanding, I know all that. It's just that I expected to see a
INSTCTRL file or instctrl directory with such file.That's what I'd consider
normal in DU 4.0 and Tru64 5.0 onwards.
I have that OSF/1 archive on 1.0 and 2.0 a few years already.(found
somewhere) but till now didn't look at it. I've got a DS20E with DU 4.0g.
When I get a change I might install some parts.
Take care,
uncle rubl
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 19:15, Arrigo Triulzi <arrigo(a)alchemistowl.org>
wrote:
On 16 Mar 2023, at 10:25, Rudi Blom
<rudi.j.blom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
The more I learn the better I understand I know nothing.
BTW what format do the OSC... 200 archives have
so I can 'unpack' them
easily?
You install them using setld, as in:
setld -l OSC…
(you can have multiple sets in one setld command)
To see what is installed:
setld -i
I assume you don’t need a license for it, otherwise you would have a
so-called PAK file and you’d load it with:
lmf register < pakfile
lmf load OSF…
the “pakfile” could be (and was, in academia) a huge list of licenses
which you’d load in one go.
Arrigo
4:59 p.m.
New subject: OSF/1.0 Sources
On 16 Mar 2023, at 15:35, Rudi Blom <rudi.j.blom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A misunderstanding, I know all that. It's just
that I expected to see a INSTCTRL file or instctrl directory with such file.That's
what I'd consider normal in DU 4.0 and Tru64 5.0 onwards.
Oh, my apologies. I thought it was a rather more basic question. I can have a look at my
4.0D sources and see how those are packaged.
Arrigo
17 Mar
17 Mar
10:38 a.m.
New subject: OSF/1.0 Sources
Just a quick check shows
. my archive osf1src10 contains OSC* as tar files, osf1src20 contains
similar filenames but as gzipped tar files.
For osf1src10 untarring all gives a directory ./usr/opt with subdirectories
OSC200 and OSCX200.
A quick check on osf1src10 gives mxr, libmxr.so and mxr.1 but no source of
those.
For osf1src20 same result.
On osf1src10 the OSC* files have date 2003-11-03, on osf1src20 2004-11-06.
Unzipped, untarred the usr directory has size 370Mb. A quick check shows my
osf1src10 and osf1src20 contain the SAME software. Using "ls -lR" most
source files seem from 1994-03-02, but there are groups from 1993-01-26 as
well (e.g. termcap files).
That's all from me.
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 22:59, Arrigo Triulzi <arrigo(a)alchemistowl.org>
wrote:
On 16 Mar 2023, at 15:35, Rudi Blom
<rudi.j.blom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
The more I learn the better I understand I know nothing.
A misunderstanding, I know all that. It's
just that I expected to see a
INSTCTRL file or instctrl directory with such
file.That's what I'd consider
normal in DU 4.0 and Tru64 5.0 onwards.
Oh, my apologies. I thought it was a rather more basic question. I can
have a look at my 4.0D sources and see how those are packaged.
Arrigo
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