<I added an RLV-controller for those RL02 drives into the system and
I take it that is the rlv12 controller as the rlv11 twoboard set is not
usable. The rlv11 (m8014/8014) must be plugged into a h9273 backplane
only!
RLV12 nominal CSR is 17774400, Vector 160
^^
DEQNA nominal CSR is 17774440, Vector 120
^^
I positioned the text to show how similar they are but not the same.
<snipped some rows from the GENERIC file to make a good system.
<What struck me as if upon my head was that the CSR for the DQNA and the
<RL02 controller was the same.
No they are not.
<I am reluctant to put cards on non standard CSRs since the GENERIC kerne
No need to.
<What the heck is happening? Do I need to have the RL02 connected to get t
<darn thing to interrupt or do I have a CSR / Interrupt conflict along the
<line?
likely yes, the drive must be connected. Also recheck you haven't
interrupted the bus grant sequence with the mix of quad wide and dual
wide cards.
<Or could the controller be bad? (Not to worry! I got more controllers
<laying about! =) ).
It is possible.
Allison
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<I added an RLV-controller for those RL02 drives
into the system and
I take it that is the rlv12 controller as the rlv11 twoboard set is not
usable. The rlv11 (m8014/8014) must be plugged into a h9273 backplane
only!
Actually, if you use an expansion BA23 it is possible to hook a
RLV11 set to a uVax. Woe to the person that tries this, though, as there
are bad things in store when the system begins doing any Q-bus
transactions past the lower 248 Kbytes! The 18-bit-ness of the
RLV11 is a very nasty form of 18-bit-ness, and not easily overcome
like, say, the RXV21.
<What the heck is happening? Do I need to have the
RL02 connected to get t
<darn thing to interrupt or do I have a CSR / Interrupt conflict along the
<line?
likely yes, the drive must be connected.
Certainly yes, if the Ultrix autoconfigure logic is anything like
2.11 BSD's was before I got fed up with it insisting that I have
my RL units #0 when booting. To quote from 2.11BSD Patch #380:
Subject: RL driver update, setvbuf(3) arrives in 2BSD, rdist fix (#380)
Description:
1) 'autoconfig' only recognizes the RL controller if drive 0
is connected to the system at boot time.
Repeat-by:
1) Boot a system with multiple RL drives, but with drive
0 not present. 'autoconfig' will not see an interrupt
from the RL subsystem during its probe of drive 0, and as
a result the rl driver will not be attached.
Fix:
1) Modify /sys/autoconfig/rlauto.c so it tests only for the
presence of the RL controller CSR, and doesn't wait for
an interrupt. This is the same thing which is done in the TS11
probe routine because TS controllers can not be made to interrupt
reliably if a tape is not at the load point and the drive is not
online.
Tim.
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programming languages in electronic media form and in a form
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as a printed or written listing of programs, containing specific
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controlling the operation of a computer system, but which is not
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in SOURCE CODE form. Such offering may also include OBJECT CODE
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CODE PRODUCT identified in Section 3 of this Agreement, solely
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or in conjunction with DESIGNATED CPUs, and/or Networks of
CPUs, licensed by LICENSEE through this SPECIAL SOFTWARE LICENSE
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includes the right to modify such SOURCE CODE PRODUCT and to
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SOURCE CODE PRODUCT.
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modification so developed is intended primarily for the benefit
of a third party and (ii) any copy of any such result,
enhancement or modification, furnished by LICENSEE to a third
party holder of an equivalent Software License with SCO where
permitted by Section 8.4(b) below, is furnished for no more than
the cost of reproduction and shipping. Any such copy that
includes any portion of a SOURCE CODE PRODUCT shall be subject to
the provisions of such Section 8.4.
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Section 8.4(b).
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subject to U. S. Government export requirements and to Section
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time of furnishing each copy of a DERIVED BINARY PRODUCT.
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developing such DERIVED BINARY PRODUCT, a copyright notice
identifying the owner of such changes.
2.3 No right is granted hereunder to use any trademark of SCO (or
a corporate affiliate thereof). However, LICENSEE must state in
packaging, labeling or other wise that a DERIVED BINARY PRODUCT
is derived from SCO's software under license from SCO and
identify such software (including any trademark, provided the
proprietor of the trademark is appropriately identified).
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used by SCO (or a corporate affiliate thereof).
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DESIGNATED CPU without notice to SCO during any time when such
DESIGNATED CPU is inoperative because it is malfunctioning or
undergoing repair, maintenance or other modification.
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Agreement are restricted to the following UNIX Operating Systems,
including SUCCESSOR OPERATING SYSTEMs, that operate on the 16-Bit
PDP-11 CPU and early versions of the 32-Bit UNIX Operating System
with specific exclusion of UNIX System V and successor operating
systems:
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SCO makes no guarantees or commitments that any SOURCE CODE
PRODUCT is available from SCO. If available, SCO will, within a
reasonable time after SCO receives the fee specified in this
Agreement for a SOURCE CODE PRODUCT, furnish to LICENSEE one (1)
copy of such SOURCE CODE PRODUCT.
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consent of SCO, export, directly or indirectly, SOURCE CODE
PRODUCTS covered by this Agreement to any country outside of the
AUTHORIZED COUNTRY.
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will not knowingly, without the prior written consent, if
required, of the Office of Export Administration of the U.S.
Department of Commerce, Washington, D.C. 20230, transmit,
directly or indirectly:
(i) any SOURCE CODE PRODUCT subject to this Agreement; or
(ii) any immediate product (including processes) produced
directly by the use of any such SOURCE CODE PRODUCT;
to Afghanistan, the People's Republic of China or any Group Q, S,
W, Y or Z country specified in Supplement No. 1 to Section 370
of the Export Administration Regulations issued by the U.S.
Department of Commerce.
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of the SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS identified in Section 3 above,
LICENSEE shall pay to SCO a one-time Right-to-Use Fee of
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returned to SCO for final execution.
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at the address specified in Section 8.8(a).
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penalty), however designated, imposed as a result of the
existence or operation of this Agreement, including, but not
limited to, any tax which LICENSEE is required to withhold or
deduct from payment to SCO, except (i) any tax imposed upon SCO
(or a corporate affiliate thereof) in the jurisdiction in which
the aforesaid office of LICENSEE is located if such tax is
allowable as a credit against United States income taxes of SCO
(or such an affiliate) and (ii) any income tax imposed upon SCO
(or such an affiliate) by the United States or any governmental
entity within the United States proper (the fifty (50) states and
the District of Columbia). To assist in obtaining the credit
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to any other remedies it might have, at any time terminate all
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days from furnishing a SOURCE CODE PRODUCT to LICENSEE hereunder,
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the use of any SOURCE CODE PRODUCT will not infringe any patent,
copyright or trademark. SCO and other developers shall not be
held to any liability with respect to any claim by LICENSEE, or a
third party on account of, or arising from, the use of any SOURCE
CODE PRODUCT.
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SOURCE CODE PRODUCT shall be construed as an obligation upon SCO
or any other developer to furnish any person, including LICENSEE,
any assistance of any kind whatsoever, or any information or
documentation.
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concepts utilized therein) to anyone to whom such disclosure is
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such disclosure is made that such disclosure is made in
confidence and shall be kept in confidence and have each such
person sign a confidentiality agreement containing restrictions
on disclosure substantially similar to those set forth herein.
If LICENSEE should become aware of a violation of SCO's
intellectual property and/or proprietary rights, LICENSEE shall
promptly notify SCO and cooperate with SCO in such enforcement.
If information relating to a SOURCE CODE PRODUCT subject to this
Agreement at any time becomes available without restriction to
the general public by acts not attributable to LICENSEE,
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information after such time.
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may make available copies of a SOURCE CODE PRODUCT, either in
modified or unmodified form, to third parties in the AUTHORIZED
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made available.
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type and serial number of the DESIGNATED CPU hereunder and
stating that the use by LICENSEE of SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS subject
to this Agreement has been reviewed and that each such SOURCE
CODE PRODUCT is being used solely on the DESIGNATED CPU (or
temporarily on a back-up CPU) for such SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS in
full compliance with the provisions of this Agreement.
(b) SCO shall have the right, upon reasonable notice to LICENSEE
and through SCO's accredited auditing representative, to make an
on-site inspection during normal business hours, not more
frequently than annually, of all LICENSEE's CPUs to determine
that SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS are being used solely on the DESIGNATED
CPU and are used solely for personal purposes as authorized under
this Agreement.
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and continue after any termination of rights under this
Agreement.
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in part, shall be assignable or otherwise transferable by
LICENSEE and any purported assignment or transfer shall be null
and void.
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payable and sent to:
CHECK DRAWN ON U.S. BANK TO:
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(b) Correspondence with SCO relating to this Agreement shall be sent to:
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Attention: Law and Corporate Affairs
(c) Any statement, notice, request or other communication shall
be deemed to be sufficiently given to the addressee and any
delivery hereunder deemed made when sent by certified mail
addressed to LICENSEE at its office specified in this Agreement
or to SCO at the appropriate address specified in this Section
7.7. Each party to this Agreement may change an address relating
to it by written notice to the other party.
8.9 LICENSEE shall obtain all approvals from any governmental
authority in the AUTHORIZED COUNTRY required to effectuate this
Agreement according to its terms, including any such approvals
required for LICENSEE to make payments to SCO pursuant to this
Agreement. LICENSEE shall bear all expenses associated with
obtaining such approvals.
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In article by Chris Drake:
Not being a lawyer, it looks confusing but
reasonable...
A couple of questions, though:
- it looks to me like the $100 fee is a one-shot that covers more
than one CPU, as long as you specify them all at the outset. Or
is this supposed to be a per-CPU fee?
- this also appears to be a fee for any or all of the versions of
the OS specified. Or is this supposed to be a per-version fee?
- Chris Drake
I'm told by Dion that you nominate the CPUs on which the software will
be run. I have no idea how to nominate an emunated CPU. The one-off
fee covers ALL nominated versions AND all successor versions
(e.g the right to use PWB, AUSAM, 2BSD, System III etc.)
The licensee also specifies which are the authorised countries.
I hope/assume that I can specify my list of authorised countries as:
All countries except Afghanistan, the People's Republic of China
or any Group Q, S, W, Y or Z country specified in Supplement No. 1
to Section 370 of the Export Administration Regulations issued by
the U.S. Department of Commerce.
Hope this helps,
Warren
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From: Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au>
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Subject: Re: DRAFT of license for ancient UNIX sources
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In-Reply-To: <199802250259.AA24622(a)world.std.com> from Allison J Parent at "Feb
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In article by Allison J Parent:
Overall not bad. The price of $100US is not
unresonable assuming the
media cost is not out of line. Still VMS can be had for FREE and media
(limited to CDrom only) is $30US. If the all up price were $100
including machine readable media that would be something more
agreeable.
What is open is what version would they provide and at what cost for
that vversion on media?
I expect that the cost will initially cover NO media. From what Dion
is saying, SCO doesn't even have copies of these systems! I will suggest
to them that, if we can put together a CD-ROM image, perhaps they can
distribute the image with every license.
If not, the license allows us to exchange copies of the systems, provided
we get written authorisation from SCO. The licensing people there are
going to get awfully sick of me asking for written authorisation, otherwise.
Warren
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From Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Wed
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Subject: PDP-11 System III - copies?
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Looking at that license from SCO, we should be able to legally use System III.
Does anybody have a copy I can add to the archive?
Thanks,
Warren
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On Wed, 25 February 1998 at 14:08:53 +1100, Warren Toomey wrote:
In article by Allison J Parent:
Overall not bad. The price of $100US is not
unresonable assuming the
media cost is not out of line. Still VMS can be had for FREE and media
(limited to CDrom only) is $30US. If the all up price were $100
including machine readable media that would be something more
agreeable.
What is open is what version would they provide and at what cost for
that vversion on media?
I expect that the cost will initially cover NO media. From what Dion
is saying, SCO doesn't even have copies of these systems! I will suggest
to them that, if we can put together a CD-ROM image, perhaps they can
distribute the image with every license.
How many CDs are we looking at? Maybe I can arrange something.
If not, the license allows us to exchange copies of
the systems, provided
we get written authorisation from SCO. The licensing people there are
going to get awfully sick of me asking for written authorisation, otherwise.
Maybe you should point that out and change that to "notification".
Greg
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From Warren Toomey <wkt(a)henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Wed
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Subject: PDP-11 Applications
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Dear All,
I'm just looking at my proposed CD image for PDP-11 systems, and
there's an empty directory called Applications, which can hold applications
written specifically for PDP-11 UNIX systems.
I haven't got anything to put in there! No, I do have a very old Usenix
tape from Jay Jaeger, dated Sept 1977.
Does anybody have anything that might go in here for v6, v7, 2BSD, PWB.
Alternatively, does anybody know where full archives of comp.sources.unix
are on the 'net??
If there's space, I'd like to have some things like this on the CD.
Ta,
Warren
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I've just installed a 2.11BSD, and I'm having some funny problems.
Here's one; I'll make a separate message of the other.
I've added a new user with vipw. When I try to change the password, I
get this:
login: root
Password:
Last login: Sat Aug 9 02:25:12 on console
2.11 BSD UNIX #7: Fri Aug 8 14:14:34 MET DST
[1] root--> passwd grog
Changing password for grog.
New password:
Retype new password:
passwd: mkpasswd failed; password unchanged.
[2] root-->
If I run mkpasswd against /etc/master.passwd, it works fine. But that
way I can't change my password.
Any ideas?
Greg
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