24 Nov
2023
24 Nov
'23
2:45 a.m.
Stuff Received:
In the U.S., certainly. Do Auzzies celebrate
thanksgiving?
Grog:
Not really, but if we did, it would have been yesterday. But we do
get exposed to Black Friday (today).
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Why yesterday? In Canada we had ours a month and a half ago!
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
24 Nov
24 Nov
2:49 a.m.
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It is Friday in Australia now
Kind regards
Damian Wildie
---- On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 12:45:46 +1000 Norman Wilson <mailto:norman@oclsc.org>
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Stuff Received:
In the U.S., certainly. Do Auzzies celebrate
thanksgiving?
Grog:
Not really, but if we did, it would have been yesterday. But we do
get exposed to Black Friday (today).
===
Why yesterday? In Canada we had ours a month and a half ago!
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
3:07 a.m.
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On Thursday, 23 November 2023 at 21:45:46 -0500, Norman Wilson wrote:
Stuff Received:
Yes, sorry, I know. And then there are things like the UK Festival of
Harvest Home. But if they were to introduce Thanksgiving here, it
would follow the US model. It does presumably have the advantage that
companies don't start with their Christmas advertising in early
October.
Greg
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In the U.S., certainly. Do Auzzies celebrate
thanksgiving?
Grog:
Not really, but if we did, it would have been yesterday. But we do
get exposed to Black Friday (today).
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Why yesterday? In Canada we had ours a month and a half ago! 
4:45 a.m.
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Like we in New Zealand now have Halloween?
Spare us!
Wesley
On 24/11/23 16:07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
On Thursday, 23 November 2023 at 21:45:46 -0500,
Norman Wilson wrote:
Stuff Received:
Yes, sorry, I know.
And then there are things like the UK Festival of
Harvest Home. But if they were to introduce Thanksgiving here, it
would follow the US model. It does presumably have the advantage that
companies don't start with their Christmas advertising in early
October.
Greg
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reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php In the U.S., certainly. Do Auzzies celebrate
thanksgiving?
Grog:
Not really, but if we did, it would have been yesterday. But we do
get exposed to Black Friday (today).
===
Why yesterday? In Canada we had ours a month and a half ago! 
5:05 a.m.
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True; but it wasn't a tradition that got imported to the lands downunder
with the convicts or the settlers. I used to read about "trick or treat"
in the ubiquitous US comic books, but never thought it'd be imported.
Wesley
On 24/11/23 18:01, Dave Horsfall wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Wesley Parish wrote:
Like we in New Zealand now have Halloween?
Hallowe'en is an ancient English thing; it's the Yank import of "trick or
treat" that got pushed by the marketoids to make another quick buck is
what annoys us.
-- Dave 
5:12 a.m.
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All hallows eve, when the dead are allowed to walk the Earth. Other European cultures have
it too, the day of the dead.
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On 24 Nov 2023, at 4:01 pm, Dave Horsfall
<dave(a)horsfall.org> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Wesley Parish wrote:
Like we in New Zealand now have Halloween?
Hallowe'en is an ancient English thing; it's the Yank import of "trick or
treat" that got pushed by the marketoids to make another quick buck is
what annoys us.
-- Dave 
7:04 a.m.
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On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 12:12 AM Peter Yardley <
peter.martin.yardley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
All hallows eve, when the dead are allowed to walk the Earth. Other
European cultures have it too, the day of the dead.
The *Day* of the Dead is the 1st of November, All Hallows' Day or All
Saints' Day, or the Feast of All Saints, which memorializes all the saints
unknown and uncanonized. (The 2nd of November is All Souls' Day or
Soulmas, or the Feast of All the Faithful Departed.) The name
"Hallowe'en" applies to the night before All Hallows, just like Christmas
Eve and Christmas: a hangover from the Jewish calendar, where all holidays
begin at sunset on the day before. A friend of mine said to me once "On
erev [the day before] Hallowe'en ..." and I interrupted him: "No, no,
Hallowe'en is already an erev!"
All Saints picked up a lot of energy in Mexico from vaguely similar Aztec
traditions. It was then copied to the Philippines, which used to be
administered out of Mexico. (Hence the riddle: What happened in the
Philippines on December 31st, 1845?" The answer is "Absolutely nothing",
because it was skipped when the Philippines transitioned from Mexico time,
GMT-6, to its current time zone, GMT+8.) It is even observed as a secular
holiday in thoroughly Muslim Indonesia!
On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 12:42 AM Grant Taylor via TUHS <tuhs(a)tuhs.org>
wrote:
There's also Christmas in July, or something like that.
Yes, Ymas (as in "the middle of [austral] winter, six months before Xmas".
8:22 a.m.
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, John Cowan wrote:
On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 12:12 AM Peter Yardley <
peter.martin.yardley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The *Day* of the Dead is the 1st of November, All Hallows' Day or All
Saints' Day, or the Feast of All Saints, which memorializes all the saints
unknown and uncanonized. (The 2nd of November is All Souls' Day or
Soulmas, or the Feast of All the Faithful Departed.)
I thought the Day of the Dead was equivalent to All Souls' Day, rather
than All Saints' Day.
-uso.
5:42 a.m.
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On 11/23/23 21:07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
It does presumably have the advantage that
companies don't start with their Christmas advertising in early
October.
Eh ... I'm seeing Christmas start earlier and earlier.
There's also Christmas in July, or something like that.
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