25 May
2004
25 May
'04
10:40 a.m.
Would it make sense to add Sprite to the Unix Archives? To me, yes, it was
enough UNIX like although it wasn't ATT or BSD derived and it had many
advanced features.
I had the (small) pleasure to run it on a small number of DECstations back in
1994-1995 out of the freshly published WalnuCreek CD and I still long for some
of it features.
The distribution is still available at
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/projects/sprite/
j
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26 May
26 May
6:29 a.m.
I have looked everywhere for the cdrom of sprite. I saw a book about it a
long time ago at a bookstore and almost bought it. Some very good theory
and code was in the book if I remember right. I don't guess any one would
have the Walnut Creek cdrom of sprite that they would convert to an ISO
and make available?
Would it make sense to add Sprite to the Unix
Archives? To me, yes, it was
enough UNIX like although it wasn't ATT or BSD derived and it had many
advanced features.
I had the (small) pleasure to run it on a small number of DECstations back
in
1994-1995 out of the freshly published WalnuCreek CD and I still long for
some
of it features.
The distribution is still available at
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/projects/sprite/
j
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10:05 a.m.
On Tuesday, 25 May 2004 at 23:29:57 -0500, Randy Belk wrote:
Well, a CD-ROM *is* an ISO, so it doesn't need conversion beyond
dd'ing to some other format (note: CD-ROMs have a 2 kB block size, so
you'll need a bs=4b or larger for it to work at all).
Anyway, I think I have what you're looking for: "Sprite 1984-1993",
published by Walnut Creek CDROM. I can make a copy for you (I'm
pretty sure there's no copyright issue, but I'll check what's on the
CD before making the copy). But wouldn't it be easier just to
download the stuff off the net?
Greg
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Would it make
sense to add Sprite to the Unix Archives? To me, yes, it was
enough UNIX like although it wasn't ATT or BSD derived and it had many
advanced features.
I had the (small) pleasure to run it on a small number of
DECstations back in 1994-1995 out of the freshly published
WalnuCreek CD and I still long for some of it features.
The distribution is still available at
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/projects/sprite/
I have looked everywhere for the cdrom of sprite. I saw a book about
it a long time ago at a bookstore and almost bought it. Some very
good theory and code was in the book if I remember right. I don't
guess any one would have the Walnut Creek cdrom of sprite that they
would convert to an ISO and make available?
12:01 p.m.
On Wed, 26 May 2004 17:35:06 +0930
"Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog(a)lemis.com> wrote:
Ditto.
The distribution is still at the above URL. What you will find there
is the contents of the CD.
I got the CD from walnut Creek. Later on, after a position move I looked
back in the web for any updates and came to this URL which after comparison
with the CD turned out to have the same contents.
If you want the CD, you can download the URL tree and burn one yourself,
or I may convert the CD to an image and put it somewhere if that's too
onerous.
BTW, under Linux I don't care about DD'ing with block sizes CDs. I just
cp /dev/cdrom image.iso
Oh well, maybe blocking is lost, but the stream of bytes remains, and
blocking is restored when cdrecord burns the image back. I seem to
remember having done the same in other Unices as well... and even on
VMS.
j
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The distribution is still available at
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/projects/sprite/
I have looked everywhere for the cdrom of sprite. I saw a book about
it a long time ago at a bookstore and almost bought it. Some very
good theory and code was in the book if I remember right. I don't
guess any one would have the Walnut Creek cdrom of sprite that they
would convert to an ISO and make available? 
2:19 p.m.
I looked at the Berkeley repository last night, and did not
see some files required to run Sprite directly from disk --
for instance, the Sparc bootimage (sun4.bt or so) seems to
be missing, or I'm overlooking it, in my coffein-deprived
state of mind.
Anyway, googling "sprite cdrom" returns pointers to
www.rdg.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.cdrom.com/pub/cdrom/cdroms/sprite/...
Conveniently, www.rdg... does not resolve. www.mirror.ac.uk, on
the other hand, does, and Sprite seems to be at that very location.
The stuff underneath contains 4.8M of tar'd stuff. I don't have
the CD (would *love* to get a copy, or the ISO), so I can't
check if the contents are identical to the CD (somehow it does
not sound like it), but the stuff on mirror... only contains
a listing of the files on the CD, not the actual CD contents :(
Come to think of it.. I do have a few Sparc 2 machines, with
a few improvements (like 128MB RAM, Weitek PowerUp), and would
like to give Sprite a spin. I'm all for adding the Sprite ISO
to the archive!
- Cornelius
Randy Belk wrote:
I have looked everywhere for the cdrom of sprite. I saw a book about it a
long time ago at a bookstore and almost bought it. Some very good theory
and code was in the book if I remember right. I don't guess any one would
have the Walnut Creek cdrom of sprite that they would convert to an ISO
and make available?
Would it make sense to add Sprite to the Unix
Archives? To me, yes, it was
enough UNIX like although it wasn't ATT or BSD derived and it had many
advanced features.
I had the (small) pleasure to run it on a small number of DECstations back
in
1994-1995 out of the freshly published WalnuCreek CD and I still long for
some
of it features.
The distribution is still available at
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/projects/sprite/
j
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4:15 p.m.
On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:19:19 -0500
Cornelius Keck <cornelius(a)mail.keck.cx> wrote:
I looked at the Berkeley repository last night, and
did not
see some files required to run Sprite directly from disk --
for instance, the Sparc bootimage (sun4.bt or so) seems to
be missing, or I'm overlooking it, in my coffein-deprived
state of mind.
Right you are. I fished the URL from my bookmarks and had a cursory
look before posting my e-mail yesterday.
I just had a look at my CD (which casually happened to be on my
bag today at work), and it certainly didn't match the URL contents
as I remembered.
Indeed, something looks weird to me in the contents of the URL,
which is yet another reason to consider having a copy somewhere.
Since I started all this fuss in the first place, I have just
generated an ISO from the raw CD and am copying now the CD
contents to disk, which are being made available as
ftp://ftp.es.embnet.org/pub/misc/TUHS/sprite
and
ftp://ftp.es.embnet.org/pub/misc/TUHS/sprite.iso
as the copying is done. Beware, it is ~530MB.
Sorry for my previous posting suggesting the URL was akin to the CD
contents. It's obvious I was completely wrong and my memory has failed
me (yet once again). I hope posting the CD will make up for the
mistake.
j
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27 May
27 May
9:05 a.m.
On Wed, 26 May 2004 16:15:32 +0200
"José R. Valverde" <jrvalverde(a)cnb.uam.es> wrote:
ftp://ftp.es.embnet.org/pub/misc/TUHS/sprite.iso
as the copying is done. Beware, it is ~530MB.
Sugestion: Gzip the ISO image and
make a MD5 checksum of it.
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26 May
26 May
7:26 a.m.
Hello from Gregg C Levine
I don't know about everyone else, but you've got my vote. I have a
copy of the same CD here, I haven't been able to boot it, because I
don't have either machine, but still.... And I was able to get my copy
from the same CD maker. (There's a story attached to that as a matter
of fact.)
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Subject: [TUHS] Sprite
Would it make sense to add Sprite to the Unix Archives? To me, yes,
it was
enough UNIX like although it wasn't ATT or BSD
derived and it had
many
advanced features.
I had the (small) pleasure to run it on a small number of
DECstations back in
1994-1995 out of the freshly published WalnuCreek CD
and I still
long for some
of it features.
The distribution is still available at
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/projects/sprite/
j
--
These opinions are mine and only mine. Hey man, I saw them
first!
José R. Valverde
De nada sirve la Inteligencia Artificial cuando falta la
Natural
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