Any hints on making the v7_rk05_1145 boot image work with Ersatz11 v3
demo?
John Perkins Willis
Software Engineer/Database Architect
Ariel Technologies
(505) 524-6860
jwillis(a)arielusa.com
In article by Fred N. van Kempen:
> Isn't PWB more closely related to USG and/or Sys III ?
> --f
SysIII is related to PWB and TS, which means both PWB and TS came
before SysIII and so are covered by the Caldera license.
I still have a number of PWB `things' in the archive: supposed releases,
parts of releases, etc. I need to sit down one day and try to reconstitute
a canonical release set from these bits and pieces.
Warren
In article by Lars Buitinck:
> ftp://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixArchive/COPYRIGHTS
> says "See Caldera-license.pdf for [Caldera's] license conditions
> for thrse [sic] systems," where "these systems" includes PWB.
> The Caldera license doesn't even mention PWB. It's (apparently)
> still illegal to copy PWB (unless they consider it a version of
> V6?). I don't think they'll prosecute you for it (:-) but I'd
> change it anyway.
> Lars
I think the phrase `successor systems' covers PWB, as PWB is derived
from 6th Edition. Yes, I suppose we could ask for Mini-UNIX, PWB,
Mert, RT and TS also to be added to the list.
Cheers,
Warren
P.S I'll fix thrse at least :)
hi all, here's asbesto from FreakNet Medialab in Catania, Italy.
our pdp11/34 is still alive !!!
the local mayor and the municipalty shutted down electric power in our
old place. now we have a new place for our computers (here in italy
we have a really bad politic situation so the municipalty hate us)
the pdp11 was so cutted in parts and mounted again, and it seem
working ... only a weird sound come from the rl01 disk when working.
it SEEM the sound of the disk head "touching" the disk .. maybe ?
the disk is ok and a copy test of all files is working.
any idea ? :)
p.s. soon i will ask HELP to install any kind of UNIX on this pdp11/34:
we have no tape. only 8" floppy disks and the rl01 (and, of course, serial
port for terminal & printer)
sorry for my bad english, i'm very tired now
to know more about us, http://www.freaknet.org
gabriele "asbesto"
Hi,
On 03/03/2002 01:47:34 AM PST "Steven M. Schultz" wrote:
>
> Glad to hear you're current and are not seeing 'df' weirdness. You
> may want to upgrade P11 to 2.9 though - that would, I think, have
> fixed that problem before you saw it ;)
No, wouldn't :-)
I used 2.10a all the time.
regards,
chris
On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 10:03:45PM +0100, Jonathan Naylor wrote:
> With so much open source code out there, it'd be a relatively simple
> task to find C code for IDE disc access and such like. I would even
> suggest getting older Linux code from the 2.0.x days as its likely to
> be a little less complex, while still being stable.
Linux!? why not one of the three BSD-licensed BSD-derived Net/Free/Open
BSDs? keep it "in the family" so to speak. :)
--
Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier(a)poofygoof.com
"[...] I generally haven't found IDM guys to be very good
live acts, most of them just sit down at their laptop and
tweak reaktor." -- Brandon Daniel
Howdy -
> From: Christian Groessler <cpg(a)aladdin.de>
> I just last week installed v6 from tape image. I have to admit, I like
> working boot images more :-) (Since I only have an emulator and not
An emualtor of course would use an emulated tape image ;) That's
how I typically install. There are instructions and sources to
the program to create the 'virtual tape' from the dump and tar files.
> the real thing, I don't have the need to physically transfer the stuff.)
I keep forgetting that not everyone has a SCSI<->Qbus adaptor :)
(it was _expensive_ at the time but gosh, after 10 years the initial
$ pain is long long gone and I've gotten a lot of use out of it)
> Hmm, I just did this now, but I have to admit, I only browsed the
> instructions of most of them. I followed the instructions of 412/413
> because I feared I'd forget to update init before rebooting the new kernel.
Yes, screwing up 'init' is, to put it mildly, catastrophic. During
the development and testing of that set of updates I did render my
system unbootable. Thankfully I had a spare OS installed on the
SCSI Zip drive - I just booted from "DU 1" and put back a working
'init' (turns out that a 100MB Zip disk can contain a *full* 2.11BSD
system - not a lot of space left, but it includes all sources and
will boot).
> But otherwise I applied all patches to 442, and then rebuilt the
> kernel, rebooted, and did "make build; make installsrc". Seemed to work.
That's fantastic to hear!
> I noticed 2 patches, which patched /usr/src/sys/GENERIC/Makefile, but
> this is a generated file I think. At least it wasn't present, because
Yes and No. YES - it is generated by running './config' in /sys/conf.
NO - it's an integral part of the OS as distributed.
> I removed /usr/src/sys/GENERIC.
You really didn't want to do that ;)
The Make* files for custom kernels will (100% guaranteed) diverge
from the defaults. That's expected. The GENERIC kernel is a special
case though. When changes are made to the Make* files (overlay sizes
change for example) the patches will not attempt to find and "fix"
any locally created kernels - but the guarantee has always been that
the GENERIC kernel _will_ build, thus the patches presume that the
/sys/GENERIC directory hasn't been removed. Indeed the kernel patches
usually suggest rebuilding GENERIC.
It is a Good Idea (saved my system a couple times) to keep a known
good working _non_networking kernel (i.e. GENERIC) in /genunix. That
way if you are tinkering around (or a bad patch ends up in /unix) you
have something to boot. Many is the time (during development, testing
of course) that I've had to rely on a /genunix to get the system
back alive.
Glad to hear you're current and are not seeing 'df' weirdness. You
may want to upgrade P11 to 2.9 though - that would, I think, have
fixed that problem before you saw it ;)
Cheers,
Steven Schultz
sms(a)2bsd.com
Hi,
On 02/28/2002 08:53:34 AM PST "Steven M. Schultz" wrote:
>
>> From: Christian Groessler <cpg(a)aladdin.de>
>> > Look at the /VERSION file. The first or second line will have
>> > the patchlevel. That file's updated by each patch.
>>
>> I have 400. I assume www.2bsd.com contains the newest patches? So 442
>> is the latest?
>
> It _might_ be easier to create an install tape from the files in
> the 2.11 portion of the PUPS archive - I think that was updated
> to about patchlevel 432 or so. There is documentation on how to
> create a boot tape, etc from the compressed files.
I just last week installed v6 from tape image. I have to admit, I like
working boot images more :-) (Since I only have an emulator and not
the real thing, I don't have the need to physically transfer the
stuff.)
> On the other hand it might be instructive/interesting/whatever to
> apply the 42 updates manually - just be sure to read the instructions
> that come with each one :)
Hmm, I just did this now, but I have to admit, I only browsed the
instructions of most of them. I followed the instructions of 412/413
because I feared I'd forget to update init before rebooting the new
kernel.
But otherwise I applied all patches to 442, and then rebuilt the
kernel, rebooted, and did "make build; make installsrc". Seemed to
work.
I noticed 2 patches, which patched /usr/src/sys/GENERIC/Makefile, but
this is a generated file I think. At least it wasn't present, because
I removed /usr/src/sys/GENERIC.
regards,
chris
> From: Nutech <repro(a)nutechgroup.net>
> To: pups(a)minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: [pups] PDP 11
> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 01:27:40 +0530
>
> I post this message with hope that someone out there can help me with a
> problem I have at hand.
>
> My company recently bought a preowned printing machine, which uses a
> PDP11/73 BA23
> connected to a VT240 terminal to control the functions of the machine.
> Needless to say that we are unable to make the PDP run since we have no
> knowledge of the machine and have no one to look upto for guidance..
>
> While we are able to power on the PDP, the VT240 is dead.
Problems like this are much more easily solved in person than by email
correspondence. Why not tell everyone where you are physically located,
and perhaps someone nearby can help.
The VT240 could be replaced by any of several terminals, or even by a PC
running a terminal emulation program.
carl
carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu
This must be a FAQ but I couldn't find the answer anywhere.
I have some 2.11BSD disk images that I want to copy large files onto on a
NetBSD box. Can someone please point me to a tool that can do it?
These are disk images that I use with p11. For various reasons, using p11
simulated tape drive isn't an option. I use kermit to inject small files into
the running p11 + 2.11BSD. It takes many minutes to 300KB. It takes much,
much more time to copy 12MB.
David Talmage
