Thanks to everybody who replied. And thanks to Markus Weber for pointing me
to http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html
I've got OpenVMS 7.3 installed now, I just haven't got it fully setup.
That makes me a user of, let's see, how many Operating Systems? And I used to
think being able to install MS-DOS 5.0 was a mark of the fully-capable and
highly-skilled computer-user! <(;^)
(Took me ages to work out I needed to fdisk the C: partition to install OS/2
2.0; SLS Linux 0.99pl?? took ages to work out how to make partitions _and_
file systems, and I was nowhere near game enough to try extfs; Maybe I'm
getting there - or at least, somewhere! ;)
--
Wesley Parish
* * *
Clinersterton beademung - in all of love. RIP James Blish
* * *
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
I find it interesting how Microsoft's name seems to pop up in Unix software.
There are quite a few times when Microsoft's name appears on the same
line as SCO's.
$ strings svr4.tar | grep -i microsoft | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn
[output attached]
I've got OpenVMS 7.3 and am planning on installing it under the SIMH/TS10 VAX.
How do I go about making disk file images?
None of the SIMH/TS10 files seem to include a Linux utility for making such a
creature - does anyone have any pointers?
Thanks
--
Wesley Parish
* * *
Clinersterton beademung - in all of love. RIP James Blish
* * *
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
I know the SCO topic's been done to death, and all, but I was thinking about
the Microsoft purchase of a Unix license (apparently) for their MS SFU
(Windows Services For Unix) which contrary to the plain meaning of the name,
is essentially a Unix (apparently OpenBSD, according to rumour) box on top of
the Windows kernel and Win32 API.
The question is, wouldn't that put Microsoft and the SCO Group in breach of
the settlement between AT&T and Berkeley? If Win SFU _is_ OpenBSD, and
Microsoft have bought a license to run it from the SCO Group of all people,
isn't that in effect picking a fight with Theo de Raadt?
This isn't definite, of course - some details I'm not sure of. But I think if
this is so, we have some very interesting few years to look forward to.
--
Wesley Parish
* * *
Clinersterton beademung - in all of love. RIP James Blish
* * *
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
SCO's whole story is just TOO bizarre... (Score:3, Interesting)
by cozziewozzie (344246) on Friday March 05, @08:24AM (#8474219)
I mean, who could have thought of a worse, more stupid way to piss off the
whole tech sector and drive yourself into bankruptcy. The more I think about
it, the more this strange idea develops that SCO (Caldera) is actually doing
all this rubbish to help the Linux community. OK, it is way out there, but in
some perverted way, it makes sense.
First of all, you have a Linux company (Caldera) who, despite their best
efforts, has trouble staying afloat. At this time, there is no corporate
support for Linux, the big vendors are running away from it, and the "GPL has
never been tested in court" is touted as an argument all over the place. Big
UNIX vendors only see Linux as a way to get people into their more proprietary
solutions.
So, Caldera buys out a UNIX vendor and does the most ridiculous thing
imaginable: sues everybody, proclaims that Linux is communist and all that
bullshit. Fast forward to the current situation: IBM, HP, Novell and other big
players are squarely behind Linux and protecting it. Microsoft is exposed as a
greedy monopolist who uses underhand tactics (yet again). GPL gets tested in
court and it is under such circumstances that guarantee a strong precedent in
GPL's favour. The UNIX heritage is cleared once and for all. Linux wins, in a
BSD fashion, and is free from corporate FUD. And who pays the bill? Greedy
investors.
This could turn out the be the best thing for the corporate image of Linux
ever.
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Michael Sokolov, I notice you're quite fond of the 4.3BSD family, and regard
it as the One True Un*x.
If you'll go to http://masalai.free.fr/386BSD.tar.gz, you'll find Bill
Jolitz's 386BSD 1.0 - mostly the source code. (I've also got the 386BSD 0.0
source files on my machine - about a decade after I almost got them
downloaded but decided not to because Linux was marginally cheaper in terms
of disk numbers. I'll have to mount them loopback and copy the files off
them.)
And perhaps it can be placed with the other 4.3BSD family members in the
appropriate minnie.tuhs directory, Warren?
--
Wesley Parish
* * *
Clinersterton beademung - in all of love. RIP James Blish
* * *
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
I am a bona fide BSD user, running 4.3BSD Quasijarus0c on my copy of the SIMH
VAX. (Mind you - just to set the cat amongst the pigeons - running on my
Linux box ... :-)
Thanks to everybody for all your help. It's been greatly appreciated.
--
Wesley Parish
* * *
Clinersterton beademung - in all of love. RIP James Blish
* * *
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
Wesley Parish <wes.parish(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> I downloaded the two Quasijarus distros,
Not sure which two do you mean, but keep in mind that the current release is
4.3BSD-Quasijarus0c, and that Warren's archive is no longer the main
distribution site for 4.3BSD-Quasijarus and is not up to date. The main
distribution site for 4.3BSD-Quasijarus is ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG.
> I was under the impression that gzip (both standalone and included in tar)
> knew how to handle compress files. Apparently not.
Use real compress, get it from
ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG:/pub/UNIX/components/compress.tar
I'm using compress -s mode, which produces the same strong compression ratio as
gzip (stronger than original compress), but without the politically unacceptable
letter 'g'.
MS
This is a sort of lame message but I'm having a sort of lame day, dealing
with some lame people who created some lame problems and I'm sick of lame.
OK, enough with the whining already. The good part is that I got a
message from this list. I am on a zillion mailing listings, I've been
around since the arpa net had 11 IMPs, and long enough before that that I
wacked pathalias. I witnessed first hand the first posting of
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\ WARNING: Morons /
\ next hundred /
\ postings /
\ !!!! /
\ /
\ /
\/
back in the days where netnews was how we communicated and virtually everyone
on news had a PhD or a Masters or was headed there (those were the days, eh?).
I love getting mail from this list, it brightens up my day. After a day of
nothing but cleaning up other people's messes, people who work for me and
should know better, I was in a foul mood. Really foul. And then some mail
from this list showed up and it just changed my whole day. Not because the
mail was that uplifting but because it is a connection to my past, back
when I used to argue with Guy Harris and thought I was right, back when
all I wanted was to work at Sun.
I really like this list, it's bright spot, but I wished you people were
a little more vocal. Maybe it's just me but I wonder if I'm really the
only one who revels in the past a bit... Maybe I need to get out more :)
--
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.comhttp://www.bitkeeper.com
I downloaded the two Quasijarus distros, and tried " tar zxvf *.tar.Z ", and
nothing happened.
I was under the impression that gzip (both standalone and included in tar)
knew how to handle compress files. Apparently not.
My system's Mandrake 9.2, tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25. Is there some incantation
I'm not doing? Any ideas?
Thanks.
--
Wesley Parish
* * *
Clinersterton beademung - in all of love. RIP James Blish
* * *
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
