> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:50:26 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Thorsten Glaser <tg(a)66h.42h.de>
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] licence of ditroff?
> To: Aharon Robbins <arnold(a)skeeve.com>
> Cc: martinwguy(a)yahoo.it, miros-discuss(a)66h.42h.de, tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
>
> Aharon Robbins dixit:
>
> >Instead of starting with 27 year old code, you'd be better
> >off taking the troff from http://www.swtch.com/plan9port.
>
> Thanks, that's a nice idea, but from what I experienced,
> the portability of recent AT&T/Bell/Lucent/whatever code
> is worse than the bugs in old code (eg. I could not get
> ksh93 to compile, something in there just dumped core;
> but then that's Unix, not Plan 9).
ksh93 is a different animal, from a different group, and problems
there are not surprising (sadly).
On the flip side, they do take bug reports seriously.
> >This is a port of many Plan 9 utilities to Unix. The troff there
> >(a) has an explicit license that will probably do for the BSD people
>
> If it's the same licence as for 8c, then no, unfortunately.
I don't know. It's worth double checking the current license; it
changed sometime in the past year or two.
The Plan 9 troff is certainly a descendant of the ditroff you
found, for whatever that's worth.
Arnold
Instead of starting with 27 year old code, you'd be better
off taking the troff from http://www.swtch.com/plan9port.
This is a port of many Plan 9 utilities to Unix. The troff there
(a) has an explicit license that will probably do for the BSD people
(b) already knows how to produce PostScript
(c) can handle UTF-8 and 16-bit Unicode
Arnold
> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:39:47 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Thorsten Glaser <tg(a)66h.42h.de>
> Subject: [TUHS] licence of ditroff?
> To: martinwguy(a)yahoo.it
> Cc: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org, miros-discuss(a)66h.42h.de
>
> Hi!
>
> I would like to know which licence the files at
> http://medialab.dyndns.org/~martin/tape/stuff/ditroff/
> are under.
>
> If it's http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf
> that would be nice, if not, is there any way to find
> out whose (c) is on the files, and how to contact them?
>
> Reason: I'm developer of a BSD offspring and already
> integrated 4.4BSD-Alpha nroff, neqn, tbl etc. under the
> Caldera licence above into our operating system in order
> to get rid of the less free, written in C++, GNU groff.
> With success. Now I'm lacking postscript output.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> //mirabile
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----- Forwarded message from Martin Guy <martin(a)freaknet.org> -----
From: Martin Guy <martin(a)freaknet.org>
To: asbesto <asbesto(a)freaknet.org>
Subject: Re: [tg(a)66h.42h.de: [TUHS] licence of ditroff?]
Ta!
I already dealt with this in november - same person.
Is this an old message?
The outcome was: it's in the public domain because they
published the original sources with no copyright notice at the
top... so they are going to create a new free troff from the
sources on my tape, more free than groff!
Yes!
M
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, asbesto wrote:
[snip]
> ----- Forwarded message from Thorsten Glaser <tg(a)66h.42h.de> -----
>
> I would like to know which licence the files at
> http://medialab.dyndns.org/~martin/tape/stuff/ditroff/
> are under.
[snip]
> ----- End forwarded message -----
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Is the original code for SCCS under the Caldera license? In particular,
is there a URL where it's available? Or should someone wishing to work
with SCCS files use GNU CSSC?
Thanks,
Arnold
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Question: Will the list server drop subscribers, if they have not
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Repeated queries to the list server's management site, didn't provide
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So when you have the time to look into the matter, can you
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"The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
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Greetings all.
A few weeks ago, in a fit of nostalgia, I decided to gather together
a personal copy of the various Usenet source groups as still available
at places like gatekeeper.dec.com and ftp.uu.net. The result is
a collection of six newsgroups, net.sources, and then
comp.sources.{games,misc,x,unix,reviewed}.
I removed duplicates and fixed a few other archiving goofs as well.
The result is about 700M, uncompressed. It just fits on one CD. :-)
I have made a tarball available, it's about 145M, if anyone wants it.
URLs:
http://www.skeeve.com/Usenet.tar.bz2ftp://ftp.freefriends.org/arnold/upload/Usenet.tar.bz2
Only one compression format; the .gz file is almost 180M.
Enjoy,
Arnold
