TUHS

tuhs@tuhs.org

34 participants
6419 discussions

Re: [TUHS] TeX/troff/typesetting markups - Re: SunOS 4 documentation

by Michael Kerpan

Comparing documents produced by Heirloom troff and modern versions of LaTeX, I just can't see a huge difference. The main thing TeX has going for it is LyX, which makes composing documents a whole lot more comfortable for folks raised on WYSIWYG. If a tool like that was available for troff... Mike On Apr 14, 2017 6:24 PM, "Toby Thain" <toby(a)telegraphics.com.au> wrote: On 2017-04-14 9:56 AM, Michael Kerpan wrote: > Of course, these days, there's a version of troff that borrows TeX's > layout rules, while also adding vastly improved font handling, support > for the most useful/widely used groff extensions, and more. Why Heirloom > troff isn't more widely used is a puzzle for the ages. > No matter how far you tart up the former, Troff and TeX just aren't playing the same ballgame. --T > Mike >

7 years, 9 months

Steven Bourne - early days of unix talk

by arnold＠skeeve.com

>From the 9fans list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kEJoWfobpA It's about an hour long; haven't watched it yet. Arnold

7 years, 9 months

editors passim

by Steve Simon

Another one i would be interested to know more of. whilst at college i used an inter data 3210 running edition 7, which was version 7 with bits of 2.1 bsd (very much from memory). there was an editor on that machine i have never seen or heard of since - le. it was a visual editor, and i think supported multiple windows, of termcap style. anyone know more? -Steve

7 years, 9 months

The QED editor, and its modern versions

by Christian Neukirchen

While we are on the topic of old Unix editors, I once made Caltech qed build again: https://github.com/chneukirchen/qed-caltech Also, I've been trying to contact David Tilbrook, who maintains(-ed?) his own version of qed, without success. I got an evaluation copy of his QEF build system, which contains a bit of documentation about it, but no binary. Perhaps someone here can help out, or knows more? -- Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen(a)gmail.com> http://chneukirchen.org

7 years, 9 months

UK written UNIX line editor in early 80s?

by Steve Mynott

In the autumn of 1984 as an undergrad at Durham University (UK) I remember using a Pascal compiler (pc) on a BSD4.1 system (bumped after several months to 4.1c and running I would guess on a small VAX?) and using a strange line editor (probably because the terminal had crude screen handling capabilities?). I can't remember much about it other than it seemed to resemble ex. I think I was told it was written in the UK and doing some Googling suggests it may have been "em" (Editor for Mortals) from Queen Mary College. However, the time frame for that editor was late 70s and it would have been quite old by 1984. So my current theory is that it was a fork (maybe with a different name) or later version? Anyone use this editor or anything similar around 1984? -- 4096R/EA75174B Steve Mynott <steve.mynott(a)gmail.com>

7 years, 9 months

The Rand Editor

by ron minnich

is this code lost or out there somewhere?

7 years, 9 months

BSD 4.2 distribution differences

by Arthur Krewat

Hello all... I have a BSD 4.2 distribution that I imaged a few years back. It differs from the one in Warren's archives in subtle but significant ways. It appears to be a few months earlier than the one at: http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/UCB/4.2BSD/ Case in point, from srcsys.tar: diff -r ./GENERIC/vers.c /home/krewat/archive/unix/tuhs/4BSD/Distributions/4.2BSD/bin/srcsys/GENERIC/vers.c 1c1 < char version[] = "4.2 BSD UNIX #8: Sun Oct 2 12:03:09 PDT 1983\n"; --- > char version[] = "4.2 BSD UNIX #9: Wed Nov 2 16:00:29 PST 1983\n"; or from src.tar: diff -r ./bin/mail.c /home/krewat/archive/unix/tuhs/4BSD/Distributions/4.2BSD/bin/src/bin/mail.c 2c2 < static char sccsid[] = "@(#)mail.c 4.18 (Berkeley) 9/9/83"; --- > static char sccsid[] = "@(#)mail.c 4.21 (Berkeley) 11/1/83"; 449,454d448 < if (strcmp(my_name, "root") && < strcmp(my_name, "daemon") && < strcmp(my_name, "network")) { < usage(); < done(); < } (was doing a diff -r of the entire tree) stand (first file on tape) is the same down to the checksum. But the checksum for every other file (tape files, not individual files) on the tape is different. Also weird is that on my distribution, these exist: < -rwxrwxr-x 0/10 0 Jul 26 16:37 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ < -r--r--r-- 0/10 3522 Jul 26 03:08 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/lmacs < -r--r--r-- 0/10 5196 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch0.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 13713 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch1.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 42144 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch2.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 9278 Jul 26 03:09 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch3.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 34324 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch4.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 18913 Jul 26 03:10 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch5.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 21543 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch6.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 162 Jul 26 03:10 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch61.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 19093 Jul 26 03:10 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch7.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 26713 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch8.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 12914 Jul 26 03:11 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch9.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 8107 Jul 26 03:11 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch10.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 8694 Sep 25 21:01 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch11.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 22170 Jul 26 03:12 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch12.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 11453 Jul 26 03:12 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch13.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 6678 Jul 26 03:12 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch14.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 6368 Jul 26 03:12 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch15.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 36465 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/ch16.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 6301 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/chb.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 4364 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/chc.n < -r--r--r-- 0/10 5700 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/Makefile < -r--r--r-- 0/10 12 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/indexsed < -r--r--r-- 0/10 98 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/mantags < -r--r--r-- 0/10 166 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/extrnames.awk < -r--r--r-- 0/10 94 Jul 26 03:13 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/fixmks.sed < -r--r--r-- 0/10 57142 Jul 26 03:14 1983 ./ucb/lisp/doc/franz.n But in the TUHS version, ./usb/lisp/doc is linked to /usr/doc/lisp - which doesn't seem to exist. These are just examples of what I see and not the only differences.

7 years, 9 months

4.3 Wisc file transfer

by Mary Ann Horton

Apologies if this is already on the list somewhere. What's the best way to transfer files in and out of the simh 4.3BSD Wisc version? I can do it with tape files, but it seems like FTP or ssh or NFS ought to be possible, and none is behaving at first blush. Also, what's the recommended way to shut down the system? I shutdown now to single user, then sync a few times, then ^E, but when I boot again I get fsck errors serious enough to require a manual fsck (which generally works fine.) Thanks, Mary Ann

7 years, 9 months

A decision

by Warren Toomey

All, in the 25 years of running this list, generally things have gone well and I've not had to make many unilateral decisions. But today I have chosen to unsubscribe Joerg Schilling from the list. I'm sending this e-mail in so that there is a level of transparency here. I've sent Joerg an e-mail outlining my reasons. Cheers, Warren

7 years, 9 months

Happy birthday, Internet!

by Dave Horsfall

The Internet (spelled with a capital "I", please, as it is a proper noun) was born in 1969, when RFC-1 got published; it described the IMP and ARPAnet. As I said at a club lecture once, there are many internets, but only one Internet. -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer."

7 years, 9 months

Jump to page:

2025

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

2000

1999

1998

1997

1996

1995

1994

1993

1992

1991

1990

TUHS