Nice archaeology. Blinded by my distaste for Basic , I never bothered to
try bs--and should have. Dave has highlighted features that deserve respect.
One telling example suggests this should be legalized in C:
printf("%s\n", {"true", "false"}[1]);
Doug
All,
So... I've moved on from v7 to 2.11bsd - shucks, vi and tar and co. just
work there and everything else seems to be similar enough for what I'm
interested in anyway. So yay, I won't be pestering y'all about vi
anymore :). One the other hand, now I'm interested in printing the docs.
2.11bsd comes with docs in, of all places, /usr/doc. In there are
makefiles for making the docs - ok, make nroff will make ascii docs, and
troff will make troff? docs using Ossana's 'original' troff. So, after
adding -t to it so it didn't complain about 'typesetter busy', I got no
errors. I mounted a tape, tar'ed my .out file and untar'ed it on my
macbook (did it for the nroff and troff output). Then I hit the first
snag, groff -Tps -ms troff.out > whatever.ps resulted in cannot adjust
line and cannot break line errors and groff -Tps -ms nroff.out >
whatever.ps resulted in a bunch of double vision. I seem to recall doing
this in v6 and it working ok (at least for nroff).
My questions:
1. Is there a troff to postcript conversion utility present in a stock
2.11 system (or even patch level 4xx system)?
2. Is there a way to build postscript directly on the system?
3. Is there an alternative modern way to get to ps or pdf output from
the nroff/troff that 2.11 has?
I'm still digging into the nroff stuff as that may be just minor diffs
between ancient nroff macros and "modern" macros or even just errors
(.sp -2 rather than .sp or .sp -1, .in -2 instead of .in +2), etc.
Although, the files display ok in 2.11bsd using nroff -ms nroff.out...
Thanks,
Will
--
GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF
> From: Norman Wilson
> You get a good deal and support a worthwhile small business (not just
> ABE but the individual selling shop) at the same time.
ABE isn't a small business (any more); Amazon bought them a couple of years
ago. Biblio (https://www.biblio.com/) is the same basic thing ("more than 6500
independent book stores"), but independent. There's also Alibris
(https://www.alibris.com/) but I like Biblio's site better; YMMV.
Noel
Nemo Nusquam:
Borenstein wrote a book ("Programming as if people mattered: Friendly
Programs, Software Engineering, and Other Noble Delusions") in which he
mused about W and X and Andrew. (A very nice read but horribly
expensive -- fortunately I bought it when PUP had reasonably priced
paperbacks.)
======
abebooks.com is your friend here. I just bought a used paperback copy
for about USD 15 including shipping to Canada. There are others of
similar price. Shipping to the US is probably a little cheaper.
There's at least one copy available from a seller in the UK as
well (and doubtless some from other countries if you dig further
in the listings).
For those who don't know, ABE is a central place for independent
booksellers, including used-book shops, to sell online. You get
a good deal and support a worthwhile small business (not just ABE
but the individual selling shop) at the same time.
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
Since nobody seems to have mentioned his passing yet, I thought I might.
David Tilbrook died (from complications of COVID-19) in the early hours
of January 15, 2021.
He had been in long term care in Toronto for just over a year.
His web site remains up and running for now at http://qef.com/ though I
don't know for how long that may last.
--
Greg A. Woods <gwoods(a)acm.org>
Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack <woods(a)robohack.ca>
Planix, Inc. <woods(a)planix.com> Avoncote Farms <woods(a)avoncote.ca>
All,
I came across this note on vermaden's valuable news blog and thought
y'all might enjoy it - it's not pure unix, but it's got a lot of
crossover. The history is interesting and to us relative newbs,
informative. I can't confirm its accuracy on the history side of things,
but I'm sure you can :).
http://unixsheikh.com/articles/the-terminal-the-console-and-the-shell-what-…
Later,
Will
SIMH has 3b2 emulation...
Much of the work was documented here:
https://loomcom.com/3b2/emulator.html
<https://loomcom.com/3b2/emulator.html>
-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Bent [SMTP:henry.r.bent@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 12:05 AM
To: Arnold Robbins
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society
Subject: Re: [TUHS] System V Release 2, adding swap?
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 11:02, Arnold Robbins < arnold(a)skeeve.com
<mailto:arnold@skeeve.com> > wrote:
Hi.
Does anyone know how to add swap space on a System V Release
2 system?
In particular, on an emulated AT&T 3B1. The kernel is S5R1
or S5R2
vintage.
I don't see any commands with 'swap' in their names.
A little bit of Google Groups trawling turned up this:
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.att/c/8XLILI3K8-Y/m/VxVMJNdt9NQJ
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.att/c/8XLILI3K8-Y/m/VxVMJNdt9NQJ>
But I don't have one of those systems, so I have no way to verify.
-Henry
At 03:46 PM 1/23/2021, Dave Horsfall wrote:
>Sent to me from a fellow weirdo...
>
>At 19:25:36 AEDT (00:25:36 UTC), Unix time reached 0x60000000. We're three quarters of the way to 2038...
That was January 14, 2021, right?
https://www.epochconverter.com/hex
- John
Hi.
Does anyone know how to add swap space on a System V Release 2 system?
In particular, on an emulated AT&T 3B1. The kernel is S5R1 or S5R2
vintage.
I don't see any commands with 'swap' in their names.
Thanks,
Arnold
I'm writing about my 5 favorite unix design principles on my blog this
week, and it got me wondering what others' favorite unix design principles
are? For reference, mine are:
- Rule of Separation (from TAOUP <http://catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/>
)
- Let the Machine Do the Dirty Work (from Elements of Programming Style)
- Rule of Silence (from TAOUP <http://catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/>)
- Data Dominates (Rob Pike #5)
- The SPOT (Single Point of Truth) Rule (from TAOUP
<http://catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/>)
Tyler