To all concerned,
I was wondering what progress has been made in porting 32V to the
x86 platform.
I would like to keep track of it's development. Maybe even dedicate
a web site just for 32V/32I on x86. I'm not certain on how to setup a
repository, but I'm willing to learn as I go.
I have a DSL connection. 3 dedicated IP addresses (1 DNS, 1 mail
server, 1 web server). The web server has 80Gb of storage space and is
running Slackware Linux 9.1. I currently host my own web site:
http://www.peacemax.org on the web server.
I would really like to see a free / low cost UNIX or UNIX-like OS
for the x86 platform come to fruition without the legal battles that
Linux and BSD have had to deal with over the years.
Thank you,
James Falknor
> Subject: RE: [TUHS] Booting v6
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:04:10 -0700
> Thread-Topic: [TUHS] Booting v6
> thread-index: AcQcKECoV1Z8goZHTHydv0dtlVPxNwAANuHA
> From: "Ian King" <iking(a)windows.microsoft.com>
> To: "Carl Lowenstein" <cdl(a)mpl.ucsd.edu>, <billc_2(a)charter.net>,
> <tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>
>
> BTW, the Lions book - which documents 6th Ed. very comprehensively - is
> available for legal purchase. I have both the published version and
> (from a set of docs I bought on eBay) an old 'bootleg' photocopy.
Me too, as they say. I did the bootleg photocopying myself.
> There was at least one card that would drive a vector display, like the
> old Tektronix storage tube devices, but most I/O was terminal based. I
> have some old ADM3a terminals that folks often mistake for early iMacs -
> they ask me which processor they use. :-)
The first 11/20 I used had a Tektronix 4002 Graphics terminal
with it. This was a storage tube, vector addressable. But it also
had a complete ASCII terminal emulator built in, with diode matrix
character generator ROMs. Also the best keyboard I ever used,
with magnetically-operated reed switches. The Tek terminal used
a specially modified KL11 terminal interface, which did serial
communication to the CPU at something like 100k characters/sec.
This made the hard-copy TTY-based editor really easy to use, because
it could repaint the whole screen in a fraction of a second.
carl
--
carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
clowenst(a)ucsd.edu
IMHO it's very good reading / learning.
I couldn't buy the book when I last tried (about a year ago) - I think
it was out of print.. I did manage to find it all on the web though.
Richard Wells
-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Brinkhoff [mailto:lars@nocrew.org]
Sent: 07 April 2004 06:32
To: Carl Lowenstein
Cc: tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Booting v6
Carl Lowenstein <cdl(a)mpl.ucsd.edu> writes:
> > From: "Ian King" <iking(a)windows.microsoft.com>
> >
> > BTW, the Lions book - which documents 6th Ed. very comprehensively -
is
> > available for legal purchase. I have both the published version and
> > (from a set of docs I bought on eBay) an old 'bootleg' photocopy.
> Me too, as they say. I did the bootleg photocopying myself.
Is it still good reading?
--
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Brinkhoff Consulting http://www.brinkhoff.se/
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> From: "Bill Cunningham" <billc_2(a)charter.net>
> To: <tuhs(a)minnie.tuhs.org>
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 06:30:01 -0400
> Subject: [TUHS] Booting v6
>
> I was looking through the old archives at the old UNIX Dennis Ritchie
> submitted. I would like to know how to boot this. I can't seem to compile
> the PDP emulator(s) with djgpp or a non-linux system. I can with my linux.
See below for a session log showing booting 6th Ed Unix on a Linux system.
> Dennis said this version of unix was compiled with assembly, then into C if
> I'm not mistaken.
I'm pretty sure that by 6th Ed the system was mostly C, with only a
few assembly routines.
> Now the PDPs they were the machines with no monitors just
> printer tty type output correct?
High-resolution bit-mapped graphics at any reasonable price came along
a few years after 6th Ed. Unix. Character-cell CRT terminals that
could display 72x12 up to 80x24 characters on a screen were available
in 1975, but were pretty expensive.
Instructions for booting "uv6swre" are contained in the file "simh_swre.txt".
To make things easier for myself, I did the following:
$ cp unix0_v6_rk.dsk rk0.dsk
and so on for 1, 2, 3.
This gives me copies of the distribution disks that I can work with
without losing the originals. Then I made a startup file "run.conf"
to contain the commands for the emulator. Here is the result of a
very recent session:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Script started on Tue 06 Apr 2004 03:09:12 PM
PDT helium3$ cat run.conf
set cpu u18
set cpu 256k
attach rk0 rk0.dsk
attach rk1 rk1.dsk
attach rk2 rk2.dsk
attach rk3 rk3.dsk
boot rk0
helium3$ pdp11 run.conf
PDP-11 simulator V3.1-0
Disabling XQ
@unix
login: root
# date
Sat Aug 20 12:19:47 EDT 1994
# ls -l
total 182
drwxr-xr-x 2 bin 1040 Jan 1 1970 bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 bin 352 Jan 1 1970 dev
drwxr-xr-x 2 bin 304 Aug 20 12:19 etc
drwxr-xr-x 2 bin 336 Jan 1 1970 lib
drwxr-xr-x 17 bin 272 Jan 1 1970 mnt
drwxr-xr-x 2 bin 32 Jan 1 1970 mnt2
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root 28472 Aug 20 12:01 rkunix
-rwxr-xr-x 1 bin 28636 Aug 20 11:38 rkunix.40
drwxrwxrwx 2 bin 144 Aug 20 12:14 tmp
-rwxr-xr-x 1 bin 28472 Aug 20 12:01 unix
drwxr-xr-x 13 bin 224 Aug 20 12:22 usr
drwxr-xr-x 2 bin 32 Jan 1 1970 usr2
# stty
speed 110 baud
erase = '#'; kill = '@'
even odd -nl echo -tabs cr1
# sync;sync
#
Simulation stopped, PC: 034316 (ADD #26,R2)
sim> bye
Goodbye
helium3$ exit
Script done on Tue 06 Apr 2004 03:10:09 PM PDT
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Notes: the simh command for emulating a Unibus PDP11 with 18-bit
addressing is now "set cpu u18".
In the line "@unix" the "@" is the prompt from the boot program, "unix"
is your response to it. Root has no password.
The disks are mounted rk1 on /usr
rk2 on /usr/source
rk3 on /mnt
The default character erase and line kill characters shown by stty
are not what anyone is used to these days.
carl
--
carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
clowenst(a)ucsd.edu
I was looking through the old archives at the old UNIX Dennis Ritchie
submitted. I would like to know how to boot this. I can't seem to compile
the PDP emulator(s) with djgpp or a non-linux system. I can with my linux.
Dennis said this version of unix was compiled with assembly, then into C if
I'm not mistaken. Now the PDPs they were the machines with no monitors just
printer tty type output correct?
Bill
