I took typing in Summer School. My parents bought me a typewriter with
mathematical symbols on it, which was almost worthless, and I had to
improvise to get some of the standard characters (for example, the
semicolon was comma/backspace/colon). By the time I was talking to
computers ( Model 33 tty) I was happy that I couldn't type faster
because it was impossible on that thing.
Steve
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On 2022-11-02 00:11, Rob Pike wrote:
Neither ken nor dmr were impressive typists. In fact
few programmers were then, at least of my acquaintance.
In the 1970s Bell Labs created the Getset - think of it as an early wired smartphone, or
a Minitel, with a little screen and keyboard. It cost quite a bit but was a cool gadget so
the executives all got one. But, in fascinating contrast to the Blackberry a generation
later, no one would touch it - literally - because it had a keyboard, and keyboards were
for (female) secretaries, not (male) executives. The product, although well ahead of its
time, was a complete failure due to the cultural bias then.
There may be a good sociology paper in there somewhere.
I'm not saying K&D shared this blinkered view, not at all, just that typing
skills were not de facto back then. Some of the folks were even two-finger jabbers. I was
a little younger and a faster typist than most of the others, and I am not a good typist
by any modern standard.
bwk was one who could smash out the text faster than many. His having learned on a
teletype, the keyboard would resound with the impact of his forceful keystrokes.
-rob
On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 5:53 PM Michael Kjörling <e5655f30a07f(a)ewoof.net> wrote:
> On 2 Nov 2022 13:36 +1100, from sjenkin(a)canb.auug.org.au (steve jenkin):
>> There's at least one Internet meme that highly productive coders
>> necessarily have good keyboard skills, which leads to also producing
>> documentation or, at least, not avoiding it entirely, as often
>> happens commercially.
>
> I wouldn't be so sure that this necessarily follows. Good keyboard
> skills definitely help with the mechanics of typing code as well as
> text, I'll certainly grant that; but someone can be a good typist yet
> write complete gibberish, or be a poor/slow typist and _by necessity_
> need to consider each word that they use because typing an extra
> sentence takes them so long. If it takes you ten seconds to type out a
> normal sentence, revising becomes less of an issue than if typing out
> the same sentence takes a minute or a minute and a half.
>
> Also, certainly in my case and I doubt that I'm alone, a lot of my
> time "coding" isn't spent doing the mechanics of "writing
code", but
> rather considering possible solutions to a problem, and what the
> consequences would be of different choices. That part of the software
> development process is essentially unaffected by how good one is as a
> typist, and I expect that the effect would be even more pronounced for
> someone using something like an ASR-33 and edlin, than a modern
> computer and visual editor. Again, the longer it takes to revise
> something, the more it makes sense to get it right on the first
> attempt, even if that means some preparatory work up-front.
>
> Writing documentation is probably more an issue of mindset and being
> allowed the time, than it is a question of how good one is as a
> typist.
>
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