18 Feb
2025
18 Feb
'25
5:06 p.m.
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On Tuesday, February 18th, 2025 at 8:36 AM, Yufeng Gao via TUHS <tuhs(a)tuhs.org>
wrote:
For the record, I've done a bit of disassembly/restoration work on bits from these
tapes, the following two Git repos have some of this work (along with Angelo's V2 B
application restorations):
https://gitlab.com/segaloco/v2src
https://gitlab.com/segaloco/v1man
https://gitlab.com/segaloco/v2man
Above are source code restorations of some commands and a roff restoration of the V1/V2
manuals. I'm happy to hand these repos over to some larger effort as seed stuff for
further V2 restoration efforts.
- Matt G.
P.S. While my own work on this stuff has stalled out as I work on some other projects, I
am happy to contribute further if someone else is interested in taking over, I just
don't see myself able to lead this effort in the near term.
From: Angelo
Papenhoff
So the next step would be to restore the assembly
source? :)
It would be a fun project restoring the source code (there's a warm and a cold
kernel, so they can be diffed to work out the ifdefs). In fact, I did disassemble vcboot
and bos, as well as half the warm UNIX kernel, but in my infinite wisdom, I decided to
name the IDA databases f1/f2/f3 and accidentally deleted them while cleaning up my desktop
:((.
From: Noel Chiappa
It will be interesting to see what it reveals, as
it's in the UNIX 'dark age'
between V1 and V4. Working from hints and clues
in the extant 'UNIX
Programmer's Manual: Second Edition', I
had tried to figure out how V2
differed from V1:
I have some UNIX V2, V3 and V4 binaries (no kernels) recovered from DMR's DECtapes,
plus a kernel driver or two from slightly earlier than nsys. Also, I have a few V4
distribution documents. I'm still slowly recovering stuff from those tapes, but most
of what I've recovered is here
(https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Applications/Dennis_Tapes/Gao_Analysis/) (thank you Warren
for hosting them!) if they interest you.
I was mostly just trying to work out how the
mysterious KS11
worked.
Sadly, this kernel does not have the KS11 stuff. The last1120c tape has binaries from a
(or the, since there was only one?) machine with the KS11, as well as an earlier C
compiler still called "nc". Of course, they're effectively V3+ binaries
that use the EAE, so they won't really help with knowing how the KS11 worked.
It would be very interesting to know what fails.
By 'hang', do you mean
'ceases making progress', or
'halts'?
Don't quote me on this, but I think under E11, it hangs in a loop before getting to
init(7), and under SIMH, it bus errors while running init(7). Though I'll need to
double-check SIMH because I may have used unix-jun72's /etc/init instead of the one
from s2.
Sincerely,
Yufeng