9 Oct
1997
9 Oct
'97
6:20 p.m.
Hi, I'm interested in buying old hardware like PDP-11, VAX,
Sun, etc., if possible near Italy (or in E.U.). Can someone
subscribed to this list suggest me [someone|a company|a university] that
sells this type of hardware, please?
Regards,
Sandro
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Subject: PDP-11 Xenix
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I just received this email from Frank Wortner. Anybody have a copy of PDP-11
Xenix?
Warren
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From: "Frank Wortner" <fwortner(a)prodigy.net>
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Subject: Re: Request to Join PUPS
I've sent off email to a friend of mine who preserved some materials from a
now-defunct software company we used to work for. He *might* have that
tape. I regret not keeping track of it, but fifteen years have elapsed
since I last booted it.
Too bad. PDP-11 Xenix had a number of nice features.
o It was based on the Seventh Edition.
o It ran on everything from a PDP-11/23 on up.
o It could simulate split instruction and data space on non I&D machines.
(*)
o It had a complete shutdown procedure (an elaborate /etc/shutdown script)
o The kernel was delivered as an archive library (".a" file), so you could
reconfigure without source.
Perhaps someone at SCO (or Microsoft) may still have a tape of it. Most
software firms archive their products in secure vaults, so it might still
exist in some warehouse.
(*) The scheme involved paging the instructions while the data remained
resident. The first 8K of the program was always resident and contained a
jump table and supporting software. The next 8K held whatever instructions
were executing at the time, while the remaining 48K was reserved for the
data and stack segments. Building a simulated I&D executable required the
user to link once as a pure executable, once as a split executable, and
finally running both executables through a program which built the final
simulated split I&D executable. The compiler had an option ('-j' if I
recall correctly) that performed these three links automatically.
Sorry for the rambling note, but I'm just a bit overwhelmed by nostalgia.
;-)
Frank
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<I just received this email from Frank Wortner. Anybody have a copy of PDP-1
<Xenix?
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< Warren
Well yes, sorta. It's on the net, John Wilson has it on ftp.dbit.com. The
however is it's for the PRO350/380 systems. I don't know if it can be moved
to more standard PDP-11 configurations.
Allison
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I don't think John has it at ftp.dbit.com. And I doubt that XENIX is
anywhere on the net. I don't even know if there was a PDP-11 XENIX. (It
was originally MS, afterall. They "sold" it to SCO way back, before SCO
collected everything else.)
There is, however, VENIX (no commercial relation to XENIX other than a
common parent) on ftp.update.uu.se. This version of XENIX is for the
DEC Pro350/380, which is, essentially, a PDP-11. There was also a VENIX
for "real" PDP-11s.
Dave
Allison J Parent wrote:
<I just received this email from Frank Wortner. Anybody have a copy of PDP-1
<Xenix?
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< Warren
Well yes, sorta. It's on the net, John Wilson has it on ftp.dbit.com. The
however is it's for the PRO350/380 systems. I don't know if it can be moved
to more standard PDP-11 configurations.
Allison
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