2 Jul
2021
2 Jul
'21
3:11 p.m.
Glenn wrote up a brief history where he says it was first distributed with 4.2bsd.
https://web.archive.org/web/19980625212119/http://www.wichman.org/roguehist…
@ Fortune Systems in 1983/83 we had 3-4 college students working for a contract company
Santa Cruz Operations(?) doing testing for us. He was one of them and later we hired him
full time. I didn’t interact with him much though and once I quit Fortune I lost track of
him. I think initially we had only a rogue binary on 4.1 running on VAX780 but I do not
recall if he brought it to Fortune. Someone later ported it to the Fortune machine. I
used to play Rogue while waiting for kernel compiles to finish. A few years ago I got it
on FreeBSD and my muscle memory came back 100%!
On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Dan Cross
<crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 7:40 AM <arnold(a)skeeve.com> wrote:
Is the rogue source extant? I remember many
people spending many
hours on rogue on the 4.[12] BSD vax at Georgia Tech.
ISTR that rogue only came as a binary, there was no source.
It is; it looks like it was first distributed with 4.3BSD-Tahoe. The sources there are
listed as "public domain rogue", but I'm not sure about the provenance of
that code.
- Dan C.
> Arnold
>
> Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Clem. I'm curious what other lore is out there: my suspicion is
> > that rogue never ran on vanilla v6, but it would be great to validate.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 10:51 PM Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I first got it on V7, as I said on our 11/70 for sure but I don’t remember
> > > if we had it on the 11/60 before that.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 10:07 PM Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> What was the first machine to run rogue? I understand that it was
written
> > >> by Glenn Wichman and Michael Toy at UC Santa Cruz ca. 1980, using the
> > >> `curses` library (Ken Arnold's original, not Mary Ann's
rewrite). I've seen
> > >> at least one place that indicates it first ran on 6th Edition, but
that
> > >> doesn't sound right to me. The first reference I can find in BSD
is in 2.79
> > >> ("rogue.doc"), which also appears to be the first release to
ship curses.
> > >>
> > >> Anyone have any info? Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> - Dan C.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > > Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
> > >