11 Jan
2024
11 Jan
'24
12:50 a.m.
No idea what COFF is, but in the early 1980s, two non-troff options on
the software side were -
1) TeX. From Donald Knuth, which means tau epsilon chi, pronounced tech
not tex. The urban legend was upon seeing an inital copy of one of his
books sometime in the 1970s, he yelled "blech!" and decided that if you
wanted your documents to look right, you need to do be able to it
yourself, and TeX rhymes with blech.
2) Scribe. From Brian Reid, of Carnegie-Mellon
See http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/scribe.pdf
-Brian
Clem Cole clemc at ccc.com wrtoe:
Not really UNIX -- so I'm BCC TUHS and moving to
COFF
On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 12:19b/PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:
On the subject of troff origins, in a world where
troff didn't exist, and
one purchases a C/A/T, what was the general approach to actually using the
thing? Was there some sort of datasheet the vendor supplied that the end
user would have to program a driver around, or was there any sort of
example code or other materials provided to give folks a leg up on using
their new, expensive instrument? Did they have any "packaged bundles" for
users of prominent systems such as 360/370 OSs or say one of the DEC OSs?
Basically, the phototypesetter part was turnkey with a built-in
minicomputer with a paper tape unit, later a micro and a floppy disk as a
cost reduction. The preparation for the typesetter was often done
independently, but often the vendor offered some system to prepare the PPT
or Floppy. Different typesetter vendors targeted different parts of the
market, from small local independent newspapers (such as the one my sister
and her husband owned and ran in North Andover MA for many years), to
systems that Globe or the Times might. Similarly, books and magazines
might have different systems (IIRC the APS-5 was originally targeted for
large book publishers). This was all referred to as the 'pre-press'
industry and there were lots of players in different parts.
Large firms that produced documentation, such as DEC, AT&T *et al*., and
even some universities, might own their own gear, or they might send it out
to be set.
The software varied greatly, depending on the target customer. For
instance, by the early 80s, the Boston Globe's input system was still
terrible - even though the computers had gotten better. I had a couple of
friends working there, and they used to b*tch about it. But big newspapers
(and I expect many other large publishers) were often heavy union shops on
the back end (layout and presses), so the editors just wanted to set strips
of "column wide" text as the layout was manual. I've forgotten the name
of
the vendor of the typesetter they used, but it was one of the larger firms
-- IIRC, it had a DG Nova in it. My sister used CompuGraphic Gear, which
was based on 8085's. She had two custom editing stations and the
typesetter itself (it sucked). The whole system was under $35K in
late-1970s money - but targeted to small newspapers like hers. In the
mid-1908s, I got her a Masscomp at a reduced price and put 6 Wyse-75
terminals on it, so she could have her folks edit their stories with vi,
run spell, and some of the other UNIX tools. I then reverse-engineered the
floppy enough to split out the format she wanted for her stories -- she
used a manual layout scheme. She still has to use the custom stuff for
headlines and some other parts, but it was a load faster and more parallel
(for instance, we wrote an awk script to generate the School Lunch menus,
which they published each week).