Re: [TUHS] First machine to run rogue?

Ken Arnold posted the original source to https://sourceforge.net/projects/rogue/ back in 2000. On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 9:12 AM Bakul Shah <bakul(a)iitbombay.org> wrote: > Glenn wrote up a brief history where he says it was first distributed > with 4.2bsd. > > https://web.archive.org/web/19980625212119/http://www.wichman.org/roguehist… > > @ Fortune Systems in 1983/83 we had 3-4 college students working for a > contract company Santa Cruz Operations(?) doing testing for us. He was one > of them and later we hired him full time. I didn’t interact with him much > though and once I quit Fortune I lost track of him. I think initially we > had only a rogue binary on 4.1 running on VAX780 but I do not recall if he > brought it to Fortune. Someone later ported it to the Fortune machine. I > used to play Rogue while waiting for kernel compiles to finish. A few years > ago I got it on FreeBSD and my muscle memory came back 100%! > > On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >  > On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 7:40 AM <arnold(a)skeeve.com> wrote: > >> Is the rogue source extant? I remember many people spending many >> hours on rogue on the 4.[12] BSD vax at Georgia Tech. >> >> ISTR that rogue only came as a binary, there was no source. >> > > It is; it looks like it was first distributed with 4.3BSD-Tahoe. The > sources there are listed as "public domain rogue", but I'm not sure about > the provenance of that code. > > - Dan C. > > > Arnold >> >> Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Thanks, Clem. I'm curious what other lore is out there: my suspicion is >> > that rogue never ran on vanilla v6, but it would be great to validate. >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 10:51 PM Clem Cole <clemc(a)ccc.com> wrote: >> > >> > > I first got it on V7, as I said on our 11/70 for sure but I don’t >> remember >> > > if we had it on the 11/60 before that. >> > > >> > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 10:07 PM Dan Cross <crossd(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > >> What was the first machine to run rogue? I understand that it was >> written >> > >> by Glenn Wichman and Michael Toy at UC Santa Cruz ca. 1980, using >> the >> > >> `curses` library (Ken Arnold's original, not Mary Ann's rewrite). >> I've seen >> > >> at least one place that indicates it first ran on 6th Edition, but >> that >> > >> doesn't sound right to me. The first reference I can find in BSD is >> in 2.79 >> > >> ("rogue.doc"), which also appears to be the first release to ship >> curses. >> > >> >> > >> Anyone have any info? Thanks! >> > >> >> > >> - Dan C. >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > > Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual >> > > >> >