20 Jan
2021
20 Jan
'21
5:21 a.m.
No relation to either V32 or V7. When we started the project
we used the existing version of UNIX that we were selling on
the PDP 11/45 and PDP 11/70 computers. I believe it was V6.
I wrote a lot of documentation and gave a lot of talks and
presentations on the system, but never kept any of the
documentation myself. There may be some documentation
in someone's archives but I did not keep any.
Heinz
On 1/19/2021 2:33 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 3:30 PM Heinz Lycklama <heinz(a)osta.com
<mailto:heinz@osta.com>> wrote:
INTERACTIVE Systems Corp. (ISC) also ported a UNIX system to an
early VAX 11/750 computer running DEC's VMS operating system
starting in mid- 1978. ISC was in the business of porting the
UNIX operating system to many different computer hardware
architectures, mini-computers to mainframes, but the first
complete UNIX system port was actually done to the DEC VMS
system. We delivered the first UNIX on VMS system to a customer
in the Fall of 1979. Many of these systems were delivered to
customers in North America as well as in Europe well into
the mid-1980's.
What relationship, if any, does this have to V32? Or maybe "Was that
based on V7 or V32?" is the right question...
Also, this wasn't something that I had on my list... Any chance
there's a paper / article / etc on this?
And thank you for your remembrance...
Warner
Heinz
On 1/15/2021 6:29 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:18 PM John Cowan <cowan(a)ccil.org
<mailto:cowan@ccil.org>> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:14 PM Dave Horsfall
<dave(a)horsfall.org <mailto:dave@horsfall.org>> wrote:
Whose foray? Not DEC's. Eunice was built
at SRI and
sold by the
Wollongong Group, who must have had Downundrian
connections.
It was
originally developed ca. 1981 by David Kashtan at SRI[1]
and later
maintained and marketed by The Wollongong Group.''
Where's the disagreement?
Eunice post-dated DEC's first Unix offering by several years.
They sold V7 and later V7M before rebranding it to Ultrix. Eunice
was 4.1BSD (later 4.2 and 4.3) that Dr Kashtan grafted into VMS
in ways that... provoke strong feelings among reviewers... The
TCP/IP stack that was inside of Eunice would form the basis for
Wollongong's TCP/IP offerings on VMS... A more refined version,
also done I think by Kashtan, was marketed by TGV and there was
always much rivalry between the two companies...
Wollongong got its license because they were the marketing
company formed to market Dr. Miller's port to Interdata, and they
later branched out significantly because their license was so
special... Or at least that's the story they told customers and
internally... I never saw the original license to know...
Warner