19 Jan
2017
19 Jan
'17
11:02 p.m.
Have you used Solaris 11, especially up to 11.3? I find Linux and it's
recently evolving service and network configuration methods to be a bit
of a pain. The biggest example of this was the loss of ifconfig from the
minimal install of Redhat/Centos recently. Manually installing nettools
just to get it back, when every other UNIX still has it is exasperating.
If you're a Linux-only house, and even then are up-to-date and use only
one or two distros of Linux, I get it. But if, like me, you administer
multiple distros, versions, and then start moving across AIX, HP/UX and
Solaris, it's another glaring example of "we're going it alone"
(again).
For what it's worth, I've been administering a PeopleSoft environment
built entirely on Solaris x86 (half of it virtualized) for quite a few
years, and it's been trouble-free. All the other Linux distros I
administer have had their own idiosyncrasies and bugs. Not to mention
the glaring security holes that have come out in the past 2 years.
Conversely, I've also administered some SFHA clusters on Redhat and
they've been flawless too.
But I digress. This is not supposed to be a "bash Linux" thread :)
On 1/19/2017 11:39 AM, Tim Bradshaw wrote:
Well, they are probably reacting to what their
customers want which, in my experience working at a fairly typical customer up to a couple
of years ago, is indeed Linux. That's kind of sad, but Linux, much though I'd
like to hate it, is unfortunately both a significantly more pleasant experience as a user
& administrator, and a lot easier to hire people for. It's 20 years too late for
Solaris to have a future.
On 19 Jan 2017, at 14:40, Arthur Krewat
<krewat(a)kilonet.net> wrote:
Let's hope they do the right thing and release Solaris into the wild again. ZFS in
particular.
Personally, I think they are making a huge mistake. What are they going to do, move to
Linux? Oh, right... the "cloud" will be Linux.
Blech.
> On 1/19/2017 3:49 AM, Wesley Parish wrote:
> I suppose that set of rumours will lead to people shifting to the FOSS versions
> of Solaris and SPARC.
>
> Wesley Parish
>
> Quoting Kay Parker <kayparker(a)mailite.com>:
>
>> guess it is the beginning of the end of Solaris and the Sparc CPU:
>> 'Rumors have been circulating since late last year that Oracle was
>> planning to kill development of the Solaris operating system, with
>> major
>> layoffs coming to the operating system's development team. Others
>> speculated that future versions of the Unix platform Oracle acquired
>> with Sun Microsystems would be designed for the cloud and built for the
>> Intel platform only and that the SPARC processor line would meet its
>> demise. The good news, based on a recently released Oracle roadmap for
>> the SPARC platform, is that both Solaris and SPARC appear to have a
>> future.
>>
>> The bad news is that the next major version of Solaris—Solaris 12—
>> has
>> apparently been canceled, as it has disappeared from the roadmap.
>> Instead, it's been replaced with "Solaris 11.next"—and that
version
>> is
>> apparently the only update planned for the operating system through
>> 2021.
>>
>> With its on-premises software and hardware sales in decline, Oracle has
>> been undergoing a major reorganization over the past two years as it
>> attempts to pivot toward the cloud. Those changes led to a major speed
>> bump in the development cycle for Java Enterprise Edition, a slowdown
>> significant enough that it spurred something of a Java community
>> revolt.
>> Oracle later announced a new roadmap for Java EE that recalibrated
>> expectations, focusing on cloud services features for the next version
>> of the software platform. '
>>
>
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/oracle-sort-of-confir…
>> --
>> Kay Parker
>> kayparker(a)mailite.com
>>
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