On Sun, Jun 05, 2022 at 09:40:44PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote:
On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 9:15 PM Larry McVoy
<lm(a)mcvoy.com> wrote:
Today's FreeBSD install process is like a
trip back to 1980. It is
not pleasant. The Linux install process 15 years ago was a better
experience than Windows install process (if you've done the windows
install then get some ethernet dongle that windows recognizes so you can
connect to the internet, then do the driver search and install, install,
install all the drivers - contrast that with Linux where it just has 99%
of the drivers in the kernel).
But every distribution has its own installer, and they vary wildly.
Indeed they do. I'd put RedHat as the best of the best, but truth be
told, Debian is not bad, it's more basic but it works.
I disagree about the BSDs being similar to Linux, go partition a
disk with FreeBSD and then compare that to Linux. It's night and day.
The Linux stuff works and is obvious, the FreeBSD stuff only makes sense
if you have been using that forever, it's awful if you are a newbie.
And I say that as a guy who went through Sun's stuff, it was similar to
FreeBSD but a bit better.
Linux really did just make stuff work. Is it elegant like v7 was, absolutely
not. Does it handle a ton of stuff that nobody could imagine in the v7 days?
Absolutely yes. Is it more complex than it should be? I dunno, it is more
complex than I like but I'm an old graybeard. I really wanted coarse graine
locking with what Clem and crew did with the cluster approach. The vproc
stuff. I loved that and I think that is the knee of the curve, scale up
a bit on SMP but then cluster to scale up more.