13 Apr
2004
13 Apr
'04
1:20 p.m.
On Monday, 12 April 2004 at 15:29:36 -0700, Michael Davidson wrote:
On Monday, 12 April 2004 at 19:40:31 -0400, Gregg C Levine wrote:
Hello from
Gregg C Levine
An interesting discourse on the subject of the gentleman's books. I
haven't found them, as yet. However, I did find one discrepancy in the
article. I suppose Dennis Ritchie will comment eventually, but, here
goes, his name, and Brian Kernighan are mentioned on my copy of the
book on the C programming language. The only time I've seen the other
fellow's name mentioned was in regards to another book on UNIX.
I'm not sure what discrepancy you are referring to - the article looked
quite accurate to me.
Which particular "other fellow" are you thinking of? Hello from Gregg C Levine
Um this fellow, Ken Thompson. According to my copy of the book on the
C programming language, only Brian Kernighan, and David Ritchie, are
mentioned. Ken Thompson, is only mentioned as being a partner in the
creation of UNIX,
Not that I'm a great believer in religion, but this comes close to
sacrilege. I would have thought that people on this forum (you,
Gregg, certainly included) would have known that ken and dmr (to use
their login names) are so much the basis of UNIX that up to and
including the Sixth Edition the directory tree was divided into two
directories named after them:
=== root@wantadilla (/dev/ttyp1) /home/grog 24 -> cd /src/UNIX/Sixth-Edition/
=== root@wantadilla (/dev/ttyp1) /src/UNIX/Sixth-Edition 25 -> ls -l usr/sys/
total 1
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 3016 Jul 18 1975 buf.h
dr-xr-xr-x 2 grog wheel 512 Jul 19 1975 conf
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 916 May 14 1975 conf.h
dr-xr-xr-x 2 grog wheel 512 Jul 18 1975 dmr
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 407 May 14 1975 file.h
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 949 May 14 1975 filsys.h
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 533 May 14 1975 ino.h
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 1693 Jul 18 1975 inode.h
dr-xr-xr-x 2 grog wheel 512 Jul 18 1975 ken
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 58990 Jul 18 1975 lib1
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 45578 Jul 18 1975 lib2
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 2147 May 14 1975 param.h
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 1481 Jul 18 1975 proc.h
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 274 May 14 1975 reg.h
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 900 Jul 18 1975 run
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 533 Jul 18 1975 seg.h
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 1749 May 14 1975 systm.h
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 380 May 14 1975 text.h
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 2320 May 14 1975 tty.h
-r--r--r-- 1 grog wheel 2842 Jul 18 1975 user.h
=== root@wantadilla (/dev/ttyp1) /src/UNIX/Sixth-Edition 26 ->
"The other fellow" indeed! As dmr says, he wrote more code than he
and Kernighan put together (though in this source tree their input is
remarkably balanced).
On Monday, 12 April 2004 at 20:01:26 -0400, Norman Wilson wrote:
Hello from Gregg C Levine
Um this fellow, Ken Thompson. According to my copy of the book on the
C programming language, only Brian Kernighan, and David Ritchie, are
mentioned. Ken Thompson, is only mentioned as being a partner in the
creation of UNIX, I think he was a co-author in the book mentioned in
titles pages, describing the UNIX programming environment.
Ken's name is on a number of interesting papers from the early days of
UNIX, including the original one in CACM, but so far as I can remember
he was never the official author or co-author of a UNIX book. You may
be thinking of `The UNIX Programming Environment,' by Kernighan and Pike.
I suppose those who don't know both Ken Thompson and Rob Pike might
confuse them, especially since (I think) they both reside in the Bay
Area now.
I've never seen ken without a beard, though there's a photo of him
without one taken a very long time ago. I've never seen Rob Pike with
a beard.
They are certainly different people; I have seen them
in the same
room many times.
Ah, the marvels of time-sharing!
Greg
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