Re: Reno (was Re: What *was* the Tahoe?)

Tim Shoppa <SHOPPA(a)trailing-edge.com> writes: Well, they have to be compatible somehow, since the same BSD tape was used for all of them. Actually, there is much more to it. The Tahoe architecture was specifically designed for BSD. CCI first made a vendor release for their machines, kinda like SunOS and Ultrix, based on 4.2BSD. Then some time after the 4.3BSD release CSRG designed to integrate CCI's changes into the mainstream BSD tree. The result was named 4.3BSD-Tahoe. What's interesting is that 4.3BSD-Tahoe does not have any bootblocks for the Tahoe architecture, and the documentation often refers to the BSD kernels being loaded by the system ROM on Tahoe. As you can imagine, having the system ROM load your OS's kernels is one hell of a requirement, and the Harris and Unisys machines would have to REALLY compatible with the CCI for this to work. My guess would be that they were identical clones, just like the PC clones that run unmodified PC-DOS. If I'm not mistaken, there is a city somewhere on the west side of the U.S. called Tahoe/Reno. The BSD developers probably thought "OK, we already have Tahoe, let's have Reno too." Reno also probably stands for "renovation", although IMHO sawing the branch you are sitting on is pretty damn stupid and certainly doesn't qualify as "renovation". Sincerely, Michael Sokolov Phone: 440-449-0299 (Home) 216-217-2579 (Cellular) ARPA Internet SMTP mail: mxs46(a)k2.scl.cwru.edu Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA04486 for pups-liszt; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:49:13 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu [152.1.88.4]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA04481 for <pups(a)MINNIE.CS.ADFA.EDU.AU>; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:49:04 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rdkeys(a)seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu) Received: (from rdkeys@localhost) by seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10244; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:42:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rdkeys) From: "User Rdkeys Robert D. Keys" <rdkeys(a)seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Message-Id: <199811231842.NAA10244(a)seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: 4.3/4.4 IBM distributions (need history) In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.981123125810.17938D-100000(a)grant.transarc.com> from Pat Barron at "Nov 23, 98 01:05:13 pm" To: pat(a)transarc.com (Pat Barron) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:42:50 -0500 (EST) Cc: pups(a)MINNIE.CS.ADFA.EDU.AU X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk It might be good to find out any info or history or whatever, if anyone still knows anything. If IBM does not particularly want it, it might be nice to add to the archives, as an educational one-up on Gates. Then what are the `Reno' and `Lite' builds that I have. I was assuming they were all related, or were there other ports done outside IBM? Now I am less clear on what it is I actually have...... Darn! Always one step behind and two weeks late..... If there are any leftover AOS docs, or any leftover boards, particularly the external ESDI, SCSI, TAPE, or ethernet boards, or any leftover mice, that would be nice to locate. Also, a spare tape drive would not hurt. Dupster fodder......(:+{{..... Bob Keys Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA04591 for pups-liszt; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:17:42 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [208.131.56.12]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA04586 for <pups(a)MINNIE.CS.ADFA.EDU.AU>; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:17:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rickgc(a)calweb.com) Received: by mail.calweb.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA10904 for <pups(a)MINNIE.CS.ADFA.EDU.AU>; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:17:27 -0800 (PST) X-SMTP: helo rgc from rickgc(a)calweb.com server @12.22.0.83 ip 12.22.0.83 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981123112715.0092ed20(a)pop.calweb.com> X-Sender: rickgc(a)pop.calweb.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:27:21 -0800 To: pups(a)MINNIE.CS.ADFA.EDU.AU From: Rick Copeland <rickgc(a)calweb.com> Subject: BSD Network Version 2 upload Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk PUPS List, I have just put BSD Network Version 2 up on Minnie in the incoming directory. This is from a tape passed to me from Mr. Kirk McKusick. The file includes a readme and is zipped with WinZip version 6.22. Sincerely, Rick Copeland Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA04712 for pups-liszt; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:37:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au: major set sender to owner-pups(a)minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f