I had access to the sources. We had a room in our facility that I referred to as the
“toxic waste dump” where we had firewalled off to suit the IBM intellectual property hacks
to approve us to have their
source code. Somewhere, there’s probably an EXABYTE tape (no longer readable) with the
source kicking around. Yes, there were different directories under “mach” (if I’m
remembering that) but this isn’t much different than any other UNIX port. You’ve got
your own startup, interrupt handling, and low level memory management. Fortunately, all
four of the mach types supported paging.
From: TUHS [mailto:tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org] On Behalf Of Clem Cole
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:40 AM
To: Kevin Bowling
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society
Subject: Re: [TUHS] UNIX on S/370
I can verify that AIX/386 and AIX/370 were a common set of SCCS sources at Locus when they
did the development for IBM. So if you can find the base sources for the one you should
have much of the other. There were obviously some low level tools that were specific to
each architecture and the compiler back ends were different.
I do not have access to any of the that, as I was not directly involved with that project,
since I was leading the TNC work for Intel, HP, DEC and Sun; I was specifically fire
walled from the original IBM TCF project at the time (I was one of the architects and we
all got together regularly but for legal reasons, Locus was careful about who had access
to what sources). I know folks that did have access to the IBM IP and I can ask around.
i.e. Walker, Joe Hopfield, et al would people to ask, if you can find them.
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:38 AM, Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling(a)kev009.com> wrote:
I was asking about s/370 UNIX flavors
I can help you with AIX for i386, I’m probably one of the main “historians” for that
vintage of IBM stuff.. here ya go
http://ps-2.kev009.com/aixps2/. All the docs are
scattered on my server there. It WILL run under virtualization but is picky anout which.
Google will point you to guides.
On Tuesday, November 21, 2017, Wesley Parish <wobblygong(a)gmail.com> wrote:
As would I. I'd also be interested in that i386 AIX Clem mentioned.
It would be interesting studying the different ways the *BSD and the
SVR4 and the AIX people etc adapted the Unix code to the i386
architecture. It'd make an interesting topic for discussion. (Likewise
in comparison with the "native" i80x86 Unix-like OSes like Coherent,
Minix and Linux. :)
Wesley Parish
On 11/22/17, Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling(a)kev009.com> wrote:
I'm also interested if any of these s/370 *ix
ever escaped captivity.
The earliest stuff may be covered by Novell's grant of early code.
I'd be willing to pay for a lawyer to help liberate any contested
material.
I have an R/390 (1990s era), z800 (2000s era) and z114 (2010s era) at
home. And Hercules. Would be fun to run *ix on any of them.
Regards,
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Nemo <cym224(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Recent commentary on porting led me to read the
article on porting
UNIX to S/370 (
https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/otherports/ibm.pdf)
to support 5ESS development because the existing PDP11s were being
overwhelmed. I confess to not having this read this before and find
it interesting. Any recollections from anyone on the matter. And
whatever happened to it?
N.